anyone else cancel Apple Tv + ?

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  1. Jan 10, 2020 #21 of 138
    jsmeeker

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    Why cancel? I have a year free.. (Started in late November 2019)

    I liked "Morning Show" and "For All Mankind" quite a bit. But apart from that, I haven't watched aything else other than "Snoopy In Space". I am guessing "Morning Show" and "For All Mankind" season two won't come until some time very late in 2020. So I guess I will be forced to pony up to at least see that. Not sure about the potential lineup of upcoming shows. Nothing totally grabbing me..
     
  2. Jan 10, 2020 #22 of 138
    TAsunder

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    It’s only $1/mo cheaper than Hulu.
     
  3. Jan 10, 2020 #23 of 138
    wmcbrine

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    I am of course using the ad-free Hulu pricing for comparison. Apple TV+ is ad-free.
     
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  4. Jan 10, 2020 #24 of 138
    TAsunder

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    And yet, Hulu with ads is at least ten times better than Apple TV+ without. Probably more like fifty times.
     
  5. Jan 10, 2020 #25 of 138
    Beryl

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    Couldn’t disagree more. Without ads is a nice service but overpriced.
     
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  6. Jan 10, 2020 #26 of 138
    TAsunder

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    I have no idea what you are trying to say here. I’m saying no Apple TV+ offerings are anything close to as good as Hulu’s originals and that’s not all Hulu even offers. I’d rather watch top tier Hulu shows with ads than anything on AppleTV+ for approximately the same price. And then I can watch the enormous pile of other content. Apple TV+ has nothing to offer but a very limited library of mostly mediocre originals. I paid $1/mo less for Disney+ without ads and that is a much, much better value.
     
  7. Jan 10, 2020 #27 of 138
    mr.unnatural

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    Comparisons of streaming content is a non-argument. It all depends on what your tastes are and what you like to watch. I have subscriptions to Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu basic, and Disney+. I have an app on my PC called Play-On that allows me to record shows from any of the aforementioned streaming services as well as quite a few others. I can record them and then edit out the commercials, as applicable. I really only do it with older TV shows because they're not usually in HD and only have 2-channel stereo audio or monaural soundtracks. I recently recorded every season of Cheers and Frasier because my wife and I both enjoy them. I only picked up Hulu because they were running a special on it for $1.99 a month for a year. I tried to watch a show on Hulu with commercials and couldn't stand it. I'm so used to zipping past them that it was extremely annoying. The cost for the ad-free version was more than I wanted to pay so chances are the only way I'll watch Hulu is if I record it first and edit out the commercials unless it's in HD.
     
  8. Jan 11, 2020 #28 of 138
    Allanon

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    I have a lifetime subscription to Play-On but haven't used it much since they removed the browser plugin. Didn't know they added Disney+, I don't have a TV device that has a Disney+ app but I do have a lot of TV devices that can get Play-On content.
     
  9. Jan 11, 2020 #29 of 138
    Beryl

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    Precisely this.

    I regularly subscribe to Netflix, Amazon Prime, and now Apple TV+. I also have access to but rarely watch ad-free Hulu (thanks to a family member). I find value in all of these services and don’t plan to cancel any of them.

    I subscribe to other services like HBO, CBSAA, and Epix a few months each year and will likely try Disney+ in 3 months (when Xfinity’s Showtime and STARZ compensation ends).

    (I purchased lifetime Play-On but haven’t used it in years but would use it as you do if I didn’t have ad-free Hulu and TiVo recordings.)

    I fully understand what you said and disagree. What is “good” is a matter of taste and our tastes clearly differ. Apple TV+ offerings compare similarly to CBSAA in quality and value — to me.

    Hulu would need to pay me to watch anything they have with ads.
     
  10. Jan 11, 2020 #30 of 138
    TAsunder

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    Comparisons of streaming services is not a non argument. It’s what consumers are doing every single day. If Apple TV+ is going to survive they are going to need to step up their game big time. No other streaming service has zero back (or current show) catalog so the Apple TV originals need to be substantially better than what the competitors are offering. And they aren’t.
     
  11. Jan 11, 2020 #31 of 138
    mr.unnatural

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    Ellicott...
    PlayOn has access to just about every streaming service available. I haven't tried to record anything from Disney+ but it does appear in the Channel listings for PlayOn. I also have a lifetime license for it but I rarely use it. My wife and I were browsing through content on Hulu when she spotted Cheers. We watched a couple of episodes but it didn't take long for me to realize I had no intention of sitting through commercials or paying a lot more for ad-free content.

    The only problem with PlayOn is that you have to stream in real time to record a show. I rarely use it because you're limited to 2-channel audio. This is fine for older shows that weren't aired in HD with 5.1 audio but it's a waste of time for me to record anything recent. Both Frasier and Cheers are 11 seasons long with 24 episodes per season so it took me a while to get all of them. What was strange was that the number of commercials aired per episode varied considerably. Many episodes had no commercials at all while others had as many as four breaks in a 30-minute slot.

    If you have a smart device that has access to streaming services then you may be able to add the Disney+ channel. See if there's an icon for Google Play or the app store on the device. You can probably download the app and install it on the device. That's what I had to do to get it on my Nvidia Shields.
     
  12. Jan 11, 2020 #32 of 138
    wmcbrine

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    Hulu with ads is worth $0 to me, but you do you.
     
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  13. Jan 11, 2020 #33 of 138
    TAsunder

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    Apple TV+ is also worth $0 at present. I certainly wouldn’t pay $1/month for it. $5 is a total rip off.
     
  14. Jan 11, 2020 #34 of 138
    Allanon

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    PyTivo has a Play-On plugin that allows you to transfer the Play-On videos to the Tivo then you can skip the ads.
     
  15. Jan 12, 2020 #35 of 138
    tivoknucklehead

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    I have watched 60 shows on netflix. Half of those shows are foreign which literally were unavailable to me before. its a big world out there. that is a success
     
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  16. Jan 12, 2020 #36 of 138
    mr.unnatural

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    That would be great if I still owned a Tivo. My last Tivo was a series 3, which has been many years ago. Now I use a Windows 7 HTPC with Windows Media Center along with a Nvidia Shield for all of my recording and streaming chores. I also have a Windows 10 HTPC with JRiver Media Center for organizing all of my HD and 4k movies, music, and miscellaneous media as well as providing playback from my vast library stored on a unRAID server (currently at 159TB and counting). I also use Plex and Kodi for accessing content, depending on which HTPC I happen to be using. Every TV in my house is controlled by individual HTPCs, all of which can watch and record live TV as well as access content from my server. I have Shields connected to two of the TVs, but all of them are Smart TVs and can stream content on their own.
     
  17. Jan 13, 2020 #37 of 138
    jasrub

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    If Apple was smart, now that their initial offerings on their service has dropped and most people have watched what they were interested in, what they should do in the future is, drop new shows in a staggered fashion. Release new shows every other month or so (instead of 3 new shows in the same month), and all new episodes weekly. That way it encourages people to stay subscribed instead of binging, unsubscribing, and then waiting till the 'next new thing' comes out.
     
  18. Jan 13, 2020 #38 of 138
    TAsunder

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    That's what they've been doing to some degree. That said, most of the exciting upcoming shows mentioned in this thread are nowhere near coming out soon and others have no accounced date other than "soon." They have a few things scheduled between now and the end of February.
     
  19. Jan 13, 2020 #39 of 138
    MikeekiM

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    LOL... I don't know why I am replying to this thread...but when I saw this, I just had to quote it...
     
  20. Jan 13, 2020 #40 of 138
    zalusky

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    Well they did hire the big guy from HBO to drive content.
     

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