Any Tivo CES 2019 news?

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  1. Jan 9, 2019 #21 of 310
    rdrrepair

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    TiVo Booth live video, no audio

    Looking across the room and zooming in on the screen it looks like something with many tiles.
     
  2. Jan 9, 2019 #22 of 310
    davezatz

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    Yes, there's a dongle. We'll get to that. But this is what you really want to see. Thanks to @TiVo_Ted for sharing!

     
  3. Jan 9, 2019 #23 of 310
    modnar

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    I'll look past the vertical video of a widescreen TV for the moment. ;)

    Will this work for TiVo Roamios? This looks great.
     
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    spiderpumpkin

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    Having a Tivo app on those devices will be
    nice but I will miss the Tivo remote control functionality.
     
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  5. Jan 9, 2019 #25 of 310
    davezatz

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    I assume it'll work for the Roamios ... that actually "roam" (which means Pro/Plus). And possibly those using the Stream accessory. If Ted finds a minute, maybe he'll hop into the thread. Not that anyone finds a free moment at CES. :)
     
  6. Jan 9, 2019 #26 of 310
    Fofer

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    Great, great news.

    If it delivers (and isn't too crippled) this will simplify my home A/V setup considerably. The freeing up of an HDMI port will also be great.

    I'm curious for details on this too :)
     
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  7. Jan 9, 2019 #27 of 310
    krkaufman

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    Right, I'm curious as to which streaming modules will be supported, and whether there will also be a requirement that the host be running TE4/Hydra.

    Oh, and whether there will be any fee ($$$) for the app.

    edit: Also if the demo'd ability to instantly stream live TV without all the "start a recording" hassle will also translate to the iOS and Android mobile apps.
     
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    Fofer

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  9. Jan 9, 2019 #29 of 310
    Dan203

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    That's interesting. So it's got the full functionality of the Mini? I assume it has to transcode the video, so does that mean that you'll be limited to two devices watching at a time? (since the Bolt can only support two streams at a time)
     
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  10. Jan 9, 2019 #30 of 310
    krkaufman

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    Yep, that's my assumption (and 4 via a Roamio Plus/Pro or Stream, per somebody's helpful TCF FAQ) ... though this limitation is probably one reason they're OK with offering the app as a freebie. (So the Mini is still a necessity, which may be the reason they're rolling-out an AC wireless adapter at the same time.)
     
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    ej42137

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    Interesting. This seems to explain why the TE4 interface is so bad; it had to be crippled to work with the reduced function of Apple, Roku and Fire remotes.
     
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    Dan203

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    I wonder if it has SkipMode support? TrickPlay is kind of a drag on the current streaming apps.
     
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    Dan203

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    I'm thinking this might be the first step toward a headless, Tablo-like, DVR. If they transcode during the recording, rather than on the fly, it would likely create an experience similar to the Mini. And since CableCARD is on the way out anyway, with no prospective replacement in sight, maybe they'll focus on OTA only from here on out.
     
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    Mikeguy

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    Going back a step for those of us who are app-challenged, could you pare this back down for us?

    And so, one would have a TiVo Roamio or Bolt box in the house, hook a Roku/Fire TV/Apple TV device into one's television (if the TV itself doesn't already have that capability built in, such as with a Roku or Fire-enabled TV), and then use the TiVo app on the Roku/Fire TV/Apple TV service to access the TiVo box wirelessly to access one's Roamio/Bolt box content?

    What are the comparisons/downsides/upsides (really, price?) of this, as compared to a second TiVo box directly attached to the television? And how would this compare to attaching a TiVo Mini instead?

    For reference, a fuller report at Dave Zatz' Zatznotfunny.com blog: TiVo To Bring Live Television and DVR Recordings to Apple TV, Roku, Fire TV.

    It is speculated in the comments there that the app approach may not have all the functionality of a Mini--e.g. it was speculated that QuickMode could be absent, as could be the Skip button (does that mean that SkipMode would be absent)?

    I'm just wondering: should one consider returning a TiVo Mini Vox picked up from Best Buy during the recent December promotions, during the almost-over (this week) extended holiday return period, or will a Mini have its own, unique advantages?

    Lastly, any further word on the Mini dongle and its capabilities/advantages, especially vis-à-vis the Roku/Fire TV/Apple TV approach?
     
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    Mikeguy

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    A further comment from @davezatz at his blog (above):
    @davezatz, any idea of how a TiVo Mini/wireless dongle experience would compare to the Roku/Fire TV/Apple TV approach?

    And any further word on the wireless dongle itself, including possible pricing?
     
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  16. Jan 9, 2019 #36 of 310
    keenanSR

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    Why wouldn't the app have the same quality as the original feed? The source content is coming from a local device(local TiVo) so the stream should be the same. In the case of the Apple TV, the Channels TV/DVR app which works in conjunction with the HDHomeRun network tuner provides full-fledged audio and video TV viewing, I don't see why this app couldn't do the same.
     
  17. Jan 9, 2019 #37 of 310
    cwoody222

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    I have a FireTV Cube hooked up to a tv that also has a first gen Mini. The Mini is fine for TiVo functions but the apps are horrible to use. So I have to switch inputs for my streaming apps.

    If I can integrate TiVo into my FireTV UI without giving up too much, I would.

    I’m looking forward to testing this side-by-side before I possibly remove my Mini.
     
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    El Maestro

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    Agreed. I am very excited about this either way, but having skip mode on my Apple TV would just be a real home run for me.
     
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    JoeKustra

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    Audio. If it sends through the audio without change I'll sign on to "same quality". That's not done on 99% of other Roku apps.
     
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    josh1014

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    Any ideas how to throw your hat in the ring to beta test these new apps?
     

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