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Any new Tivo boxes on the horizon?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by mefferso, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    4K via QAM isn't really a good option. The bandwidth requirements are just too high. (3-4x compared to HD) I can't imagine any cable company is going to go this route. converting to IPTV using DOCSIS 3.1 is a much more efficient use of their bandwidth.
     
  2. tommiet

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    Most stores have plenty of "new" boxes... pick one.:)
     
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  3. mschnebly

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  4. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

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    I don’t believe there is any 4K content available yet on that box. I had the Samsung Xfinity 4K sampler app on my TV when it was available and it was horrible. You had to log into it with your credentials upon each use in a painfully slow manner and the shows were limited to those owned by NBCU.
     
  5. chicagobrownblue

    chicagobrownblue Well-Known Member

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    AND you get recordable 4K content from Comcast?
     
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  6. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

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    No, Comcast has no broadcast channels in 4K you can watch and record.
     
  7. Bigg

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    I thought it was great. The interface wasn't the best, and the content was very, very limited, but the Olympics were spectacular in 4k, and they were encoded at about 35mbps, which was pretty epic for streaming. Luckily very few people had access to it, otherwise it could have clogged up some nodes with those sorts of bitrates back when they were running 8x3 in the area I was in at the time.
     
  8. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

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    I must’ve had a different version or not had it at the time of the Olympics (year/season?).
     
  9. mschnebly

    mschnebly Active Member

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    I never said I did. I said my X1 was 4K UHD ready.
     
  10. NashGuy

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    I had a similar Xfinity UHD Sampler app on my LG TV, probably the exact same thing as you had on your Samsung. Yeah, it was not so great. There was very little content in it -- couple of Starz shows, couple of NBC shows. I tried a few times to watch episodes of Superstore and it would also crap out after a minute or so (even though my internet connection was fine).

    I'm pretty sure that UHD on-demand Olympics coverage was streamed from Comcast via a different app (or through the built-in on-demand platform in UHD-capable X1 boxes), not through the Sampler app we were using.
     
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  11. Bigg

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    Rio 2016. It was only up for a few weeks, maybe months. The swimming was spectacular, track and field was pretty neat too on the wide shots. None of the other content was ever interesting on that.

    It was only Samsung AFAIK. I used it during Rio on my Samsung JS850D.
     
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  12. PSU_Sudzi

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    That would’ve been pretty cool to see but I don’t think I was aware that was available at the time.
     
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  13. TiVo_Ted

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    Well, since this thread is about new boxes, we did release a new BOLT VOX 1TB today. We have discontinued the prior BOLT VOX 1TB (TCD849000V) and have updated it with the 1TB TiVo BOLT VOX for Cable (TCD84910V). This new BOLT is functionally identical to the 3TB BOLT VOX (formerly BOLT+), except that it uses a 1TB drive instead of a 3TB drive. This streamlines our core offering for the holiday as follows:
    BOLT VOX for Cable - 6 QAM tuners, 1TB (150 hour) HDD, MoCA, BT, VOX Remote - $299.99 + $14.99/mo. or $149.99/annual or $549.99/All-In Plan
    BOLT OTA for Antenna - 4 OTA tuners, 1TB (150 hour) HDD, BT, VOX Remote - $249.99 + $6.99/mo. or $69.99/annual or $249.99/All-In Plan

    We will still have the 500GB BOLT VOX at $199.99 for people who want the flexibility to go antenna or cable, and the top-of-the-line 3TB BOLT VOX for customers who want a lot more storage.

    The new 1TB BOLT is available from TiVo.com now, and will be available from Amazon.com and Magnolia Home Theater/Best Buy stores in the next week or so.
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  14. dadrepus

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    If I own a 500gb Tivo Vox (white) and I want lifetime, will it cost me the $249/all in or $549/all in?
     
  15. krkaufman

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    $250 All-In only applies to the new BOLT OTA model (barring special promos) -- even if you're only using the older BOLT for OTA tuning.
     
  16. Scooby Doo

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    Which is kinda odd right, since if you only want OTA it's cheaper to buy the new Bolt with lifetime ($500) than buy lifetime on the old Bolt ($550). And way cheaper if you consider you can probably sell the old Bolt with lifetime for ~$300
     
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  17. Mikeguy

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    Presumably, TiVo's attempt to get OTA folks and cordcutters into the TiVo ecosphere, with the lower (but still not inexpensive) cost.
     
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  18. tarheelblue32

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    A Bolt without lifetime can be sold for around $100, with lifetime it's $400-$500. But I don't see how the resale value of a Bolt with lifetime makes a Bolt OTA any cheaper.
     
  19. krkaufman

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    Yeah, the logic of that post lost me mid-way through, given it seemed like the options were either a BOLT OTA w/ Lifetime vs buying Lifetime for an existing BOLT. A BOLT OTA's net cost *could* certainly be brought down by the figure you cited, from the sale of a BOLT sans Lifetime/All-In, making it a ~$400 proposition, All-In.

    If someone already has a Lifetime/All-In BOLT, I'm not sure what value there'd be in swapping for a All-In BOLT OTA, unless the current BOLT is cable-only or it is certain that the BOLT OTA's tuners could pull-in stations currently missed by the existing BOLT.
     
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  20. Scooby Doo

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    Thanks, I think I sort of lost myself! Anyway, using your correct math still supports the point I was making
     

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