Any new Tivo boxes on the horizon?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by mefferso, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. krkaufman

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    ^^^ what Scott said, on all points ^^^

    ... though I'd also add that were you to want to grab a VOX Remote for your Roamio (after a thorough review of what awaits with the "new experience") you'd want to make sure to get the VOX Remote that includes the Bluetooth (BLE) USB dongle, as only BOLTs and the Mini VOX include the necessary BLE communication capability built-in. It's not clearly mentioned on the TiVo Store page, but you'd want to select the version of the VOX Remote "for TiVo Mini and TiVo Roamio" ...

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    ... or just buy it from Amazon for $5 less.


    p.s. Do you have the Roamio plugged-in to a UPS, or just straight to the power outlet?
     
  2. NashGuy

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    Just now saw where Arris is on the verge of being acquired by wireless tech company CommScope.

    Arris Close to $5.6B Purchase by CommScope: Report

    Who knows what, if any, impact that may have on the long-term prospects for Arris's relationship with TiVo.
     
  3. mschnebly

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    Man, everything seems to be on Fast Forward these days. There is literally no way to know exactly what's coming.
     
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  5. Dan203

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    With CableCARD on the way out and no replacement on the horizon it's unlikely we'll see another new TiVo. Unless they can figure out some way to make the hardware cheaper, then we might see something that wont actually be better but could be a few bucks less.
     
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  6. Bigg

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    I really hope that TiVo will make an ATSC 3.0 model, but if not, then I'm sure Tablo or SiliconDust or someone else will step up to the plate and make an ATSC 3.0 DVR system.
     
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    Assuming that ATSC 3.0 doesn't include DRM that prevents recording high-value content or (more likely) skipping ads in recordings and making copies of recordings.
     
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  8. Bigg

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    That's a horrifying thought. Unfortunately, as we've seen with failed DRM systems from the movie and music industries, many of these industries are too dumb to realize that DRM is almost always a disaster for everyone including the content creators. If that were the case, then ATSC 3.0 would be completely, entirely pointless. Hopefully that is not the case.
     
  9. compnurd

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    My cable company has recently gone all in with Tivo(arris) hardware using cable cards. They have no IPTV plans so I see a good 5-10 years before any cable card threat
     
  10. Dan203

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    Once Comcast goes IPTV TiVo is screwed. If Charter follows suit TiVo is DOA. They might be able to survive in some capacity as a niche hardware provider for smaller regional providers, but the retail product will likely stagnate and wither away.
     
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  11. mschnebly

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    Wow would that be a horrible thing. That never crossed my mind but holy cow!
     
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  12. chicagobrownblue

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    My 4K TV has Netflix built in. You might want to try the Netflix app on your TV to see how you like streaming 4K content. Recordable 4K content is not available to me in Chicago. I don't think it is generally available anywhere in the country.


    "Whaaaat. When did we get a cat?" From a funny Cheetos commercial. It's nice to hear someone realize that the Tivo hardware is cheap and the service is reasonable.


    That sounds like a plan. I got my Roamio Basic/4-tuner for $100 net following the deals here on TCF. I have not upgraded to a Bolt. The only remaining Bolt negative for me is anecdotal evidence of overheating reported here on TCF forums.
     
  13. Bigg

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    TiVo's retail product today is a relatively small fraction of their overall business, which is focused on small MSOs. TiVo hardware may or may not survive much longer, as TiVo software can run on the XG/MG series just fine, and that's what MSOs are looking for. I hope that they develop a consumer ATSC 3.0 headless DVR system that looks like a Mini Vox but has Ethernet and Antenna connections. The traditional TiVo DVR is probably ending with the Bolt, but the Bolt series could live on with various revisions for quite a while.

    Even if Comcast committed to 100% IPTV tomorrow, it would take them several years to get there, and Charter is probably 5 years behind Comcast technology wise. By the time Charter even started converting to IPTV, the pay tv market may not really exist as we know it today anyway.

    SETV in PA. Someone on here posted about their linear 4k, which I think the Bolt can record. But yes, by and large, there is no 4k content available for TiVo to record.

    Two years ago on black friday, I got a refurb Roamio OTA with Lifetime for the princely sum of $199. I spent another $140 on a 3TB drive, and now I have way more ATSC 1.0 DVR as I'll ever need for about $340.
     
  14. chicagobrownblue

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    +1

    I think Tivo engineers and Tivo software are ahead of the game. OTA broadcasters and cable companies are way behind. Tivo could see a nice bump up in demand if 4K or HDR are delivered in several major markets.

    At some point, the TV manufacturers are going to have to push 4K or HDR delivery or they will face demand that is just replacing old TVs, not for dazzling 4K/HDR content. I replaced my 10-year old 720p plasma with a 4K TV just because I could.
     
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    My X1 was 4K so I don't think Comcast is way behind.
     
  17. chicagobrownblue

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    You can get 4K content from Comcast?
     
  18. Bigg

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    If anyone does 4k, it's going to be DirecTV. Beyond that, it's all cord cutting and streaming.

    Nope, other than some On Demand demos that I don't think exist anymore. I streamed from their 2016 4k demo from the Olympics, which was pre 4k X1 and only worked on Samsung TVs, and it was pretty spectacular, if a very limited tech demo.
     
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    It's gonna be pretty sad if, come 2020, Comcast still doesn't carry the Olympics live in 4K (or 4K HDR or even 1080p HDR), seeing as how the Olympics are broadcast on their own network, NBC. (So far, 4K Olympics coverage has been limited to next-day on demand.) But if they do, it will be via IPTV. Comcast has been pretty clear in stating that for some time now. No 4K ever via QAM.
     
  20. compnurd

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    I think they will.. My LCC had the 2018 Winter Olympics in 4K HDR on a special channel
     
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