android tivo stream app not working. says unauthorized modifications detected

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  1. Oct 2, 2014 #21 of 139
    ddorbuck

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    Margret, thank you for taking the time to read this thread and respond. I realize with all the android models out in the market and various software revisions installed on phones and tablets this can be a support nightmare for your team. Please keep us updated if you can and I look forward to a release that works.
     
  2. Oct 2, 2014 #22 of 139
    ott918

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    I received an email this morning from a program manager asking if I would like to test a patch build, so maybe this will fix it! I'll let you know as I hear more.
     
  3. Oct 2, 2014 #23 of 139
    TiVoMargret

    TiVoMargret VP Product Dev & Chief Design Officer, TiVo

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    We could use a few more volunteers to help us troubleshoot this issue.

    If you're willing to help, please email margret@tivo.com with the subject "Not Rooted".

    Thanks,
    --Margret
     
  4. Oct 2, 2014 #24 of 139
    profet

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    Copy of email sent to TiVoMargret:

     
  5. Oct 2, 2014 #25 of 139
    ott918

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    Just to update, I tried the beta version that the Program Manager provided to me and it still has the same issue. I've provided them logs, as they requested, so we'll see where we go next.
     
  6. Oct 2, 2014 #26 of 139
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Such crocodile tears....

    You knew based on the IOS app that rooted devices would not be supported. You know this is a bow to content owners - not some arbitrary limitation from tivo.

    And you know that within the next few weeks the android developer community will have it hidden via one of the cloak app.

    Being a highly technical guy myself - I haven't rooted a phone in years. I have better things to do with my time, but I also have very little sympathy for those that do when something breaks.
     
  7. Oct 2, 2014 #27 of 139
    NJ Webel

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    Not only that, but they are working to include downloading, and will require non-rooted devices when that functionality is enabled.

    'Totally crippled' is a way overblown characterization, and to send an email such as that immediately following Margaret's request for troubleshooting help from this community reeks of poor taste.
     
  8. Oct 2, 2014 #28 of 139
    aridon

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    Its ridiculous to go after rooted users when you allow much more damaging programs on PC to access your box which actually do harm. I don't know of any people ripping shows, stripping DRM and ripping out commercials from their phones with 32 to 128gb of storage. Happens ever day from TIVO to PC though.

    All you're doing is ticking off legit consumers and for zero reason.
     
  9. Oct 2, 2014 #29 of 139
    BigJimOutlaw

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    As always, complain to CableLabs and the cable lobby. It's their sandbox.
     
  10. Oct 2, 2014 #30 of 139
    aridon

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    Its not a requirement because Xfinity streams to rooted devices just fine as does Directv. Sling / Dish as well.
     
  11. Oct 2, 2014 #31 of 139
    BigJimOutlaw

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    DBS systems and their subsidiaries (Sling) don't answer to CableLabs and the cable lobby.

    Comcast's live streaming is the result of multi-million dollar distribution deals with all of the content providers. You might as well say "well Netflix does it." It's not the same thing, as Tivo has no such deals and is not in any position to have such deals.
     
  12. Oct 2, 2014 #32 of 139
    slowbiscuit

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    Great job, and well said. Terrific point that you can stream anything you want from a wide variety of TV providers (including Xfinity ToGo on my rooted phone) but Tivo won't let you stream anything if you have root.

    But the real problem here is the Neanderthals that run CableLabs, methinks.
     
  13. Oct 2, 2014 #33 of 139
    slowbiscuit

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    Let me get this straight - Comcast does deals to allow streaming and doesn't care if your phone is rooted, but they don't have any influence over CableLabs' idiotic restrictions on Tivo.

    Seriously?
     
  14. Oct 2, 2014 #34 of 139
    Disconn3ct

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    These guys are the counter-example though. Cablecard, premium channels, etc... (Also, there was that java app - kmttg? something weird like that - that does it..)
     
  15. Oct 2, 2014 #35 of 139
    Disconnect

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    ..figures, as soon as I finish posting I find my old password. doh!
     
  16. Oct 2, 2014 #36 of 139
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Comcast's streaming is video streaming over the internet. It doesn't even "touch" the cable line spec. Copy protections are whatever Comcast and the content providers agree to, just as they do for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc.

    You don't think the cable lobby wants Tivo to be on the same footing, do ya? ;) By definition Tivo's at a technical disadvantage unless they have content distribution deals with everyone, possibly including MSO's, and that's just not going to happen.

    We all know it's ridiculous, including Tivo, but they gotta play by their rules if they want to have meaningful relationships with the MSO's or respect from the FCC.
     
  17. Oct 2, 2014 #37 of 139
    profet

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    Exactly.

    http://www.hdhomerun.com/products/hdhomerun/prime/

    That product specifically is a CableCard compatible device for streaming.
     
  18. Oct 2, 2014 #38 of 139
    BigJimOutlaw

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    kmttg's DRM-stripping is effectively the PC equivalent of rooting software in this context. That's not Tivo's creation. So just like PCs and iOS jailbreakers did, wait for an update.
     
  19. Oct 2, 2014 #39 of 139
    ToastyZ71

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    Don't yell too loudly about Tivo2Go or KMTTG... don't want to get those apps pulled/banned!
     
  20. Oct 3, 2014 #40 of 139
    caughey

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    If anyone was curious, Andy the Android emulator for PC (http://www.andyroid.net) also gets the "unauthorized modifications detected" message. Not unexpected.
     

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