Android Streaming tomorrow??

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by mrsean, Sep 29, 2014.

  1. Sep 30, 2014 #61 of 139

    ncfoster Member

    Jan 22, 2011


    I understand that some people are experiencing problems with rooted devices, but I think what I am seeing is slightly different. I have a Moto X, and the update worked without a hitch (for a brief test on Wifi, nothing extensive).

    My tablet is a first-gen Nexus 7 with a SlimKat ROM installed on it, so non-standard, but still a Nexus 7. The Play Store reports that the app is incompatible with this device, so I cannot install it, only the "(Obsolete)" version.

    I fully expect that I would have problems anyhow, since my device is not stock, but I am curious as to why I cannot even get the app to install. Any thoughts?
  2. Sep 30, 2014 #62 of 139

    caughey Member

    May 26, 2007
    Orange County
    The app is working fine on my phone over wi-fi at home and 4G roaming. The app for the kindle fire HD hasn't been updated (yet?), so I installed the apk from the phone app. It installed, and works better than the original, but fails when it tries to stream, saying either the tablet SW or HW can't handle streaming. I guess I'll have to wait for the updated kindle app.

    The big question is, which will I get first: the app to stream Amazon video to my TiVo Roamio or the app to stream TiVo video to my Amazon kindle?

    Edit: Marget indicates via twitter that the Amazon app will be updated "in a few days."

    Based on TiVo's website, I wouldn't predict "soon."

    Edit: From @TiVoMargret "@davezatz We will be adding download functionality to Android." No time frame though.
  3. Sep 30, 2014 #63 of 139

    lgnad Pantless Mofo

    Feb 14, 2013
    There is... on the bottom left, the swirly counterclockwise arrow button, just like on the remote.

    And like the I-device app, you can swipe either forward or back too... but it makes the UI come up on the Android app, unlike the Apple one, which just slickly hops forward and back, without the UI taking up space.

    In other news for no reason in particular I just streamed in-home on WiFi to my Android phone and Ipad the same show at the same time. lol
  4. Sep 30, 2014 #64 of 139

    merleau79 New Member

    Sep 30, 2014
    Has anyone found that most shows have the popup window stating "Streaming Not Permitted: Streaming this show is prohibited by the copyright holder while you are away from your home network." This comes up on most of most shows. I don't understand the point of setting up 'Out-of-home streaming if you are basically limited to what you can watch. All of my HBO channels are blocked. It seems like only the local channels are available to watch. These seems highly limited. Is there a work around or a way to tell which shows are prohibited so we don't have to check each one? Thanks.
  5. Sep 30, 2014 #65 of 139

    AdamNJ Member

    Aug 22, 2013
    Dunellen, NJ


    I have a kindle fire hdx and will have to wait as well. I would like to try sideloading the apk but cannot find the 2.0 version available.
  6. Sep 30, 2014 #66 of 139

    takeagabu New Member

    Oct 7, 2007
    That's the nature of copyright protection. Certain channels will be blocked by different providers. For me on FIOS, it's HBO and Cinemax. The only thing you can do with those channels is watch live tv.
  7. Oct 1, 2014 #67 of 139

    humbb Active Member

    Jan 27, 2014
    Northern CA
    I'm having a similar problem with my 1st-gen Galaxy Tab 8.9. It's running 4.0.4 Android, but the minimum required is 4.1 so I think that may be the reason the Play Store won't make Tivo 2.0 app available to me. Kinda sucks cause I've now lost the old app so I can't even schedule recordings remotely on my tablet. Fortunately I can still do it on my Kit Kat phone.

    Is it possible that the Play Store can't recognize that your ROM is Kit Kat based and rejecting your Nexus outright?
  8. Oct 1, 2014 #68 of 139

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

    Jul 22, 2010
    Ah, I love meaningless icons :). (I never used the TiVo remote - went right to my Harmony, so I never learned what any of the meaningless icons on the remote meant).
  9. Oct 1, 2014 #69 of 139

    falc122727 Member

    Jan 21, 2004
    Love the app! It was quick and easy to set-up. I've used it on home Wifi, other Wifi, and 4g, and it works flawlessly. I was watching a live hockey game last night in an Airport on 4G 2 bars on my S4, and it was super smooth and clear, and I had no problems following the puck.
  10. Oct 1, 2014 #70 of 139

    buckyswider Member

    Aug 31, 2003
    Hmmm, works flawlessly with an INCREDIBLE picture on my Galaxy Tab 2 10". Home Wifi only tested so far.

    Still no luck with my Galaxy S5. On home Wifi it stops every 2 seconds to buffer. On 4G it can't detect streaming devices and attempts to do the setup again and fails. And yes, when I did the setup over wifi, I checked the box for away-from-home streaming or whatever it's called. I know with Sling you need to open up a couple ports and even hardcode a protocol in certain instances- I wonder if a similar thing will end up being needed here....
  11. Oct 1, 2014 #71 of 139

    tatergator1 Well-Known Member

    Mar 27, 2008
    Columbus, Ohio
    I'm guessing your cable provider is Time Warner. As already mentioned, it is what it is. Out-of-home streaming is severely limited for users with cable companies that set the CCI-byte (copy-protection mechanism) to "Copy Once" on everything but the locals. Time Warner is the biggest offender.
  12. Oct 1, 2014 #72 of 139

    AdamNJ Member

    Aug 22, 2013
    Dunellen, NJ
    The Kindle Fire app is now available, but it has new permissions so you need to do it manually.

    I have it installed and went through the steps to setup streaming. But I can't get streaming to work. I pick an existing recording or try live TV, it gets to the screen where the streaming should start, then it appears the app crashes. It then jumps back to the sign in screen, auto signs in with my saved account, then goes to the info page of what I am watching on tv currently.

    Anyone getting streaming to work on kindle???
  13. Oct 1, 2014 #73 of 139

    mcharkowski Member

    Aug 11, 2004
    Epping, NH
    Crashes on a Kindle Fire HDX, which is pretty new. Plus it can't even control a Mini. For all the time they spent getting the Android client out the door, it's amazing that it sucks this bad.
  14. Oct 1, 2014 #74 of 139

    Nyce_1 New Member

    Sep 30, 2014
    People always want to complain. At least they finally have it available for use. I'm sure there will be upgrades in the coming weeks/months to improve the functionality, but we finally have SOMETHING. I'm thankful.
  15. Oct 1, 2014 #75 of 139

    TomK Active Member

    May 22, 2001
    With my Roamio Basic 4-tuner I guess I need the TiVo Stream to stream to my tablet/phone? I'm not complaining, just making sure if I want to go that route.
  16. Oct 1, 2014 #76 of 139
    Scott R. Scherr

    Scott R. Scherr Member

    Aug 6, 2003
    New Amazon app for Kindle does not allow streaming on original Kindle Fire HD which was expected since it does not run 4.1 or higher.
  17. Oct 1, 2014 #77 of 139

    humbb Active Member

    Jan 27, 2014
    Northern CA
    Was able to sideload Tivo 2.0 from the Amazon App Store to my 1st-gen Galaxy Tab so all the non-streaming functions are now available to me. Strange that the Play Store won't allow the install for those purposes.
  18. Oct 1, 2014 #78 of 139

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

    Feb 4, 2008
    Yes, you purchased a model that does not have a stream inside...
  19. Oct 1, 2014 #79 of 139

    merleau79 New Member

    Sep 30, 2014
    Yes, I have Time Warner. But this only happens outside of my home-network. That is what's confusing to me. The Tivio knows I'm watching the shows on a different device when I'm at home and it works. So, for instance, when I was trying to setup a HTPC using an ethernet cable card, even though I was on the same network I couldn't watch the shows that were copy-once on a different device. Now, like I said, I can watch on a different device just not on a different device.
  20. Oct 1, 2014 #80 of 139

    bgartz New Member

    Jul 29, 2003
    Now I can test it out on my phone. :)

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