Amusing eBay sale

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by atmuscarella, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    So how much is an OTA only, out of production, no longer supported, used, VCR style DVR worth?

    Well in the case of this eBay sale $443 :eek: - what is even more amazing is that 4 different bidders went over $300 at the same time that someone in another thread posted he bought a used TiVo HD with lifetime for $350 on eBay.

    Of course the above sale has no real significance other than to show how differently some people value things.
  2. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    That's just insane for a buggy DVR. Hell you can get the equally buggy, just released replacement, the CM 7400, for less than $400 now. And it also does QAM, has wireless and a bigger HD.

    This smells like a sale to some older person that has no idea what to look for. Oh wait! It came with a free HDMI cable! That had to be worth at least $50, right? After all, Best Buy sells some for that much...
  3. Thunderclap

    Thunderclap Member

    Nov 28, 2005
    Chicago area
    Maybe a collector?
  4. Series3Sub

    Series3Sub Well-Known Member

    Mar 14, 2010
    I think the latest Channel Master model (this box was later rebranded as Channel Master) is retail priced LESS than this item was for bid. I believe the guts are the same on the latest model, but a different UI., but still no Name Based Recording, or still a "dumb" DVR.

    It is just that there are some people who REFUSE to pay any monthly fee at all, and this is the value that some see in this or subsequent models of this DVR, and they know full well it is NOT a "smart" DVR.

    Meanwhile, Excellent condition fully operational S3 platform TiVo's with LIFETIME all often sold at that price (usually with the larger HDD's and a little less than that if it has a smaller HDD), so those folks would never pay a monthly fee, anyway, and they would be getting a smart DVR.

    There are a lot of people who just avoid TiVo because they have to--or think they have to--pay a monthly fee, and no, they are not plunking down about $500 just for the Lifetime if they paying a monthly means they turn into a frog. On the other hand, TiVo's current pricing for the Premiere means that if someone just want to record OTA, they have to pay about $20 per month to record "FREE" TV, and that just sends some people running to the Channel Master or Bright DVR's.
  5. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    If you read the Channel Master 7400 DVR thread over at AVS, you'll see tons of posts from folks that absolutely hate Tivo because of the monthly fees. Even when you point out that a Tivo with lifetime can be had for less than $500 and is a far superior DVR than the 7400 (which, at $400, does not include guide data fees of $50/year), many just refuse to consider it.
  6. flashesbuck

    flashesbuck New Member

    Nov 28, 2010
    Wait? There's a free no service dvr out there?
  7. Chris Gerhard

    Chris Gerhard Well-Known Member

    Apr 27, 2002
    I see this at various forums. The only thing that matters is it isn't a TiVo which requires a monthly fee. Setting the record straight doesn't matter, the same person will repeat the same nonsense over and over again. The premium for a TiVo compared to these rudimentary DVRs isn't great but lack of knowledge results in Channel Master DVRs selling to people that don't know better and most eventually regret the purchase. This lucky eBay seller may have found a sucker.
  8. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    Well, a lot of folks are really just trying to replace some old VCR or DVD recorder without a lot of cost and don't know where to turn. When something like the DTVPal or CM 7000/7400 comes along, they think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread even if it mostly just does manual repeat recordings. They fail to see the value (or don't care) about name-based recordings and wishlists that Tivo offers, and refuse to pay the premium.

    It annoys me that they can't get past the monthly fee issue, even when you point out that it's not much more cost-wise with lifetime. When you bring up Tivos they think you're just a rabid fanboy even if all you're doing is comparing the two cost and feature-wise. I've tried to tell them that a used $350 Tivo HD w/lifetime will run rings around these boxes for OTA, to no avail.

    But hey, it's their money.
  9. troasti

    troasti Member

    Nov 12, 2008
    Yes for OTA only though and its a piece of junk according to most of the reviews.

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