America's Got Talent - Season 10 - Spoilers Possible from shows aired to date...

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  1. Jul 19, 2015 #21 of 156
    jdfs

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    I would say for all the comedians that are any good, they are established acts. Same for most of the magicians that do more than street magic. I would call Piff more comedian than magic.
     
  2. Jul 20, 2015 #22 of 156
    loubob57

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    And some of the singers on this show have already released albums you can buy on Amazon. There really aren't too many real amateurs on the show at least not in the later rounds.
     
  3. Jul 21, 2015 #23 of 156
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    The 45 page agreement contestants have to sign was posted online. The producers reserve the right to advance anyone they want. They don't have to give a reason. If they give a reason it doesn't have to be accurate. Any back story shown on tv doesn't have to be accurate.

    Baseball drops millions of all star ballots. You don't want the winner to be whichever contestant has a better system for generating excess votes.

    Almost all the acts which make it to the live shows were recruited by AGT talent scouts. AGT doesn't claim the contestants are amateurs. They hope to discover acts which aren't, currently, stars. Some of the finalists are more known then Mr. Piff. I wonder if some of the recruited acts are guaranteed a spot at Radio City. Mr. Piff has already performed at Radio City.

    Mr. Piff fits that description. He's a talented performer who isn't nationally known.

    I was at the taping for tonight's cut show. Live audience reaction shots were "pre-taped". The warm up comedian had us practicing standing ovations, "put him through" chants etc until we got it right. We were cheering for acts we didn't see.
     
  4. Jul 22, 2015 #24 of 156
    That Don Guy

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    That's right. It also says that the producer can decide after the season ends to give the million dollars to someone else - it even says, "Producer may make misrepresentations to me regarding any prize and the rules and conditions for receipts of any prize." That doesn't mean that it's going to happen.

    Nothing new about this; back around 1950, I think, one team (I want to say the Cardinals) stuffed the ballot boxes and ended up getting all eight non-pitcher starters, after which the voting was taken away from the fans (until the late 1960s) and given to the players.

    The rules allow the producers to choose the winners if there is tampering with the voting system, which is what I assume you mean by "generating excess votes." They're not going to go against a legitimate phone vote result; they couldn't take the chance of that information getting out. You never think you're going to get caught, until you do. (Remember the McDonald's Monopoly contest rigging, which went on for a number of years?)

    Then again, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they had all of the acts perform without giving anybody a Golden Buzzer, then brought the Golden Buzzer act out again, either to perform or just for the shot of the guest judge giving the Golden Buzzer.
     
  5. Jul 22, 2015 #25 of 156
    TriBruin

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    Personal note. I just saw the Gospel Chior on Sunday. They were part of the closing service at the ELCA National Youth Gathering in Detroit. They were really good in person as well glad to see them advance.
     
  6. Jul 22, 2015 #26 of 156
    Cainebj

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    I thought this was a pretty talented line up this week.
    I dunno why I was surprised to see so many of the singing acts lumped together in the same cut night - I guess it is to keep it from turning into a singing competition.
    I also knew DM Nation was going through given how much more air time they were given vs some of the other dance acts.
    I felt bad for Scott the bearded drag queen. Nerves really got the best of him.
     
  7. Jul 23, 2015 #27 of 156
    MauriAnne

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    I wish I had some idea how the magician named the 5 cards. I watched it a couple times and have no clue.

    I liked Michael Buble as a judge.
     
  8. Jul 23, 2015 #28 of 156
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    I wondered about judges "coordinating" with the producers. You made a comment about network standard and practices. We agree that isn't an issue. I suspect, but obviously can't prove, the producers decided only one singer would be going through.
    Not new but getting bigger.
    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/roy...cancel-65-million-votes-for-the-all-star-game
    Howard Stern Knew how it was done. He said it was pretty obvious. He wasn't very impressed with this performance. I'll speculate there was a deck swap. The deck given to the judges only had those 5 cards.
     
  9. Jul 23, 2015 #29 of 156
    That Don Guy

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    I'll put my thoughts in a spoiler:
    The fact that they riffled through the cards to get one has "Svengali-style deck" written all over it, but even then, it would be really hard to get each one to stop in a section of the deck where a different card was located. Also, when they riffled, didn't they look at the face-up card? That would make it even harder, as you would have "blocks" of identical cards.
     
  10. Jul 23, 2015 #30 of 156
    jsmeeker

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    why do they bother with these "stunt" acts? Guys riding motorcycles through fire or jumping busses and stuff?
     
  11. Jul 23, 2015 #31 of 156
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    JMO, I don't see any reason to spoilerize speculation as to how a trick was done. How the trick was done was obvious to Howard Stern. Remember he read the cards quickly. It's possible more then one celebrity had the same card but delayed 1/2 a second before raising a hand.

    edited to add I was at the taping. Howard's initial comment, suggesting he knew exactly how the trick was done, didn't seem to make it on air.
     
  12. Jul 27, 2015 #32 of 156
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    The hypnotist act was baffling. I am usually skeptical but I am almost positive he really had Howie out during his first routine a few weeks ago. This time he brought up the guest judge and Mel B. He let Mel B leave the stage quickly, and Michael Bublé faked being out. That seemed to really piss off the guy so he basically left after what seemed like 2 seconds of him trying to get them under. Just a weird act that seemed like they didn't show on TV enough for it to make sense.
     
  13. Jul 27, 2015 #33 of 156
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    Just in case I'm at least partially right and somebody who doesn't want to know anything about it doesn't stumble onto a possible answer. I can only imagine how many people will never be able to watch the "milk can escape" again after seeing the episode of The Simpsons where it was revealed.
     
  14. Aug 12, 2015 #34 of 156
    MauriAnne

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    Now that it's moved on to the live shows, I was underwhelmed. It seemed like a number of acts did better at the auditions. The only one that stood out to me was the ventriloquist; he was charming, funny and good.

    And once again this year, I thought the over-production with all the lights and backup dancers was unnecessary and distracting.
     
  15. Aug 12, 2015 #35 of 156
    loubob57

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    Yeah, the over-production was out in force. I felt bad for the Triple Threat guys. They were told by Piers Morgan that the grunge look wasn't good, so they went totally the other direction and also threw in the backup dancers. It just didn't work for them.
     
  16. Aug 12, 2015 #36 of 156
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    I don't think that was the same act. I really don't think most of the groups are doing their own production. This is done by the show producers and can really screw the acts. I doubt for instance the mariachi girl had any say in the set or dancers or choreography.
     
  17. Aug 13, 2015 #37 of 156
    loubob57

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    I agree, it is obvious that the show takes over production of some of the acts after the live shows start. Lots of acts suddenly get elaborate choreography and staging that they didn't have before, and some of them get totally farked by it.
     
  18. Aug 13, 2015 #38 of 156
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    Speaking of the "mariachi girl," she mentioned pretty much in passing that "an opening came up" in the live shows. I wonder why they don't come out and call them "wild cards" any more. My best guess is, "wild cards" implies that the judges choose them, but I have a feeling the last four were chosen by the producers this time.

    For that matter, I wonder why three of the four wild cards appeared on the first live acts show, rather than making it 2-1-1. There is also talk that there will be three more wild cards moved from this round to the semi-finals, as it doesn't make much sense to advance an odd number of acts to an even number of semi-final shows.
     
  19. Aug 13, 2015 #39 of 156
    lew

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    Two of the acts which made it through the judges cut round withdrew. That means we have a total of 6 acts.
     
  20. Aug 13, 2015 #40 of 156
    DouglasPHill

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    Please help me understand. I like AGT but I don't need to watch the same act twice. My DVR keeps recording them, some eps have names like "judges cut" or whatever. So I'll start watching an ep and realize I have seen the acts before. My DVR does not record reruns. So I'm to the point now where I have no idea what shows are really new and which arent' I was reading above where someone mentioned the dragon guy had been on twice already. I only saw him once so I must have missed his second performance.

    So my question is by looking at the episode titles, how can I tell that an episode is totally new acts, not something repackaged? Thx
     

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