American Ninja Warrior All Season Thread **spoilers**

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  1. Jun 20, 2018 #961 of 1433
    bicker

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    Especially since all the competitors are American Ninja Warriors.

    The only relevance to singling one out is to single out the winner.

    As the skills competition shows, getting to the top of Mt. Midoryama is not the ultimate remarkable feat... Doing so fastest after completing Stage 1, Stage 2, and Stage 3, is.

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  2. Jun 20, 2018 #962 of 1433
    DouglasPHill

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    Didn't see Isaacs' gf in the background or his home tour. Inquiring minds want to know.
     
  3. Jun 20, 2018 #963 of 1433
    astrohip

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    Same thought. He didn't mention her either.
     
  4. Jun 20, 2018 #964 of 1433
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    This is one of the stupidest arguments ever. Issac won and it the ONLY American Warrior Champion. The final obstacle was a "best of" not "complete" round.
    I would think EVERY one of the people who qualify for Vegas would be able to complete the rope climb and most of them being able to do it easily. So completing that is not really the challenge.
     
  5. Jun 20, 2018 #965 of 1433
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    Sure, but only two of them made it that far, and up until then we hadn't seen anyone get to the final stage, so seeing Geoff climb up successfully was "a big deal", much like when the first woman finally got up the warp wall to complete a city qualifier course.

    So Geoff and Isaac are the only two to successfully finish the finals course, and that's a big accomplishment for both. Isaac won the tie-breaker, basically by getting up the rope faster, and won the grand prize money, which is also a huge deal, obviously. (I'm sure Geoff would have loved the money!)
     
  6. Jun 20, 2018 #966 of 1433
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    They filmed the finals in Vegas this past weekend, so stay off social media unless you want to see all the Ninja posting from Vegas which may spoil it a little. As for NvN, I guessed the results completely backwards. Glad I didn't bet on my predictions!
     
  7. Jun 20, 2018 #967 of 1433
    astrohip

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    Before it happened, when it was thought to be an unreachable goal, no one thought "best of" versus "complete". Not even the rules envisioned that scenario. They simply thought that maybe one day someone could finish all three stages, and then climb the rope in less than 30 seconds. Maybe. Maybe not. And if someone did, that person would become the first ever "American Ninja Warrior".

    Then the amazing happened. Two people did it in the same season. The first one became the first ANW. The second one became the second ANW. And the one who did it faster... they became the Champion, and won the million dollars. It's not a stupid argument, as both sides felt strongly, but the final result has been accepted. Geoff was the 1st ANW, Isaac was the Champion.

    I don't know if every ninja who qualifies for Vegas would be able to complete the rope climb or not, but I would bet serious money most of them couldn't do it in under thirty seconds. And that's what they have to do to complete Stage Four. And that *is* the challenge.


    Sorry to bring this up, NorthAlabama, but I felt a reply was necessary.
     
  8. Jun 20, 2018 #968 of 1433
    NorthAlabama

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    thanks, it's ok, i understand, and your post falls exactly in line with my views on the subject. i guess i'm just a little touchy following a few weeks of others re-hashing why some believe it's constitutionally ok not to bake cakes for the wedding receptions of legally married gay people. ;)
     
  9. Jun 20, 2018 #969 of 1433
    NatasNJ

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    It is a moot point since ISSAC was allowed to pick who went first since he had the faster time in round 3.
    ISSAC could have gone first if he wanted to and be both the "insert fake title" 1st American Ninja warror. :)
    So anyone be talking about this if Issac went first and did it in 26 seconds and Geof went second and got 29 seconds? Nope.
    Cause Issac would still end up the only REAL American Ninja Warrior. :)

    I hate the delay in ANW. They should have it have less lag time than they do.
     
  10. Jun 20, 2018 #970 of 1433
    BrettStah

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    Going second has multiple advantages (which is why Isaac chose to go second).
     
  11. Jun 21, 2018 #971 of 1433
    DouglasPHill

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    Geof will always be the 1st ANW in my book.
     
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  12. Jun 21, 2018 #972 of 1433
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    An advantage he earned (and Geoff did not).

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  13. Jun 21, 2018 #973 of 1433
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    Correct. Did someone say otherwise? :confused:

    However, in hindsight, assuming Isaac would have still been quicker up the rope (which isn't a given, IMHO), he should have gone first - because when watching it "live", seeing the very first person finally get to and successfully complete the ultimate obstacle was "a big deal".

    The HUGE push by the show had always been to see if someone could get there and climb up after completing those three prior obstacles. The fact that more than one reached it in the same year, and they had to use a tie breaker to determine who got the prize money is important, but Geoff still completed the entire course, and he did it first.
     
  14. Jun 21, 2018 #974 of 1433
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    Going second does indeed have many advantages.

    But it also has a disadvantage: you may not get to be the first one to finish.

    That's the risk you take when you make that decision. Who knows, if Isaac had gone first maybe he would have finished with a slower time, without a time to beat.
     
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    The problem is that, before Geoff and Isaac, the show promoted that the first person to get up the rope would be America's First Ninja Warrior, and win $1,000,000. They never anticipated having two people do it in one season. Heck, I thought they would both win the money. Before they both did it, it was promoted as just beating the course, not beating the course in a faster time than your opponent in the last obstacle. That's why we're having this discussion.
     
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    BrettStah

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    Yep, I'm sure they had the fine print in the official "rules" somewhere, due to lawyers/insurance companies, but to us mere viewers, it was just to see if anyone could ever even reach stage 4, and then after getting to it, could they climb up.
     
  17. Jun 22, 2018 #977 of 1433
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    Despite inevitable denials, it is implicit in every attempt to undercut referring to Isaac as the first.
     
  18. Jun 22, 2018 #978 of 1433
    BrettStah

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    He was the first to win the prize money, and second to complete the final stage.
     
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    For me, they both are ANWs (yeah, I know they all are, but I'm talking about completing stage 4), but Isaac is the "champion" for that year.
     
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  20. Jun 22, 2018 #980 of 1433
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    Exactly, both did something no one else before or since has done on that course, and Isaac, by completing the final stage faster, won the tie-breaker, earning him the first place finish/title/prize money/accolades. If anyone thinks those facts diminish what Isaac accomplished, I am confused as to why.

    Roger Bannister was the first to break the 4 minute mile. Since then, others have run a mile faster than he did. Acknowledging that Bannister did it first shouldn't take away from anyone who subsequently did the same thing faster.
     

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