American Idol "Top 9 results show" 4/7/2011 *spoilers

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  1. Apr 8, 2011 #81 of 110

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

    Aug 1, 2004
    My back yard


    Time of My Life (only Billboard #1) sold 1,387,528 (platinum), Light On sold 1,113,000 (platinum), and Come Back to me sold 523,134.
    Total album sales 1,345,000 (platinum) which ain't too shabby nowadays.

    New single from upcoming 2nd album drops the 19th of this month.
  2. Apr 8, 2011 #82 of 110

    DLL66 Member

    Oct 20, 2002
    Kelly Pickler need to be added to your "Loser" list. She has a lot of success.
  3. Apr 9, 2011 #83 of 110


    Feb 12, 2005
    "One Step At A Time", which I bought.
  4. Apr 9, 2011 #84 of 110


    Jan 27, 2005
    I liked this tweet, even though I do like some of the contestants:

    @rainnwilson Today's American Idol Recap: A bunch of idiots voted off some idiot who sang worse than a bunch of other idiots.
  5. Apr 9, 2011 #85 of 110


    Feb 12, 2005


    LOL, thats pretty funny
  6. Apr 9, 2011 #86 of 110

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

    Aug 1, 2004
    My back yard
  7. Apr 9, 2011 #87 of 110

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

    Jul 24, 2001
    Milwaukee, WI
  8. Apr 9, 2011 #88 of 110

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

    Aug 1, 2004
    My back yard
    They're still under contract to 19E&R&M, but now in association with UMG/Interscope instead of Sony and its roster of labels.

    Historically, no one has been officially announced as signed before the end of the season, no recording was done until after the end of the season, and no runner up or other contestant has been allowed to release anything before the winner. Inquiring minds are waiting to see how quickly anything is truly done as this could represent quite the head start. In a crowded field where rushed albums are usually the worse for it this could prove a significant change from what has been done in the past with Sony on board.
  9. Apr 9, 2011 #89 of 110

    tiams New Member

    Apr 19, 2004
    It really bugs me when people say Pia (or whomever) was "voted off". She wasn't voted off; the others were voted in. In fact, if it were the other way around and America could vote for the person they want to go the results would be very different each week. In that case, the worst people would actually go home before the better ones.

    I certainly wish I had been given the opportunity to cast a vote AGAINST Jacob and his insulting, obnoxious comments.
  10. Apr 9, 2011 #90 of 110
    Mr. Soze

    Mr. Soze Back by popular demand

    Nov 1, 2002
    The 75006...
    Check it out, check it out.

    I finally got a chance to watch the Top 9, and NFW did Pia deserve to go. Not only was she not the worst, she and Casey were my top 2. I can't believe I say that because I have not really felt either of them this year, in fact the opposite. When I found she was doing River Deep, Mountain High, I was a bit disquieted, because that Tina Turner performance is in my Top 10 all time favorite vocals, a song I can listen to many times in a row. I totally get all the critique of Pia's lack of performing skills - she should have done that song running around like James would - but she gets 10 out of 10 from me on the vocals.

    My bottom three would have been Jacob, Stefano and Paul. Jacob going.
  11. Apr 9, 2011 #91 of 110

    gossamer88 UHDTV Snob

    Jul 26, 2005
    Da Bronx
    I only picked one loser per season and Daughtry, IMO, is more successful than Pickler. Now if I did a list of successful losers she would've made it and it would have been a shorter list.
  12. Apr 11, 2011 #92 of 110

    Roadblock New Member

    Apr 5, 2006
    How is success a matter of opinion? You measure it in some other way than sales? In what way is Kelly more successful than Carrie?
  13. Apr 11, 2011 #93 of 110

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio
    Based on worldwide record play.
  14. Apr 11, 2011 #94 of 110

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

    Aug 1, 2004
    My back yard
    Kelly Clarkson is still the most successful American Idol winner, beating out Carrie Underwood, according to a formula released by Billboard. Kelly Clarkson has notched eight Billboard Hot 100 top 10s -- including two No. 1s -- from four albums.

    While Underwood is on top of her genre and has sold more albums than Clarkson, Billboard still gives Clarkson the edge.
    According to Billboard Clarkson has sold 10.6 million albums, 15.9 million singles and has had 4.2 million radio plays. They claim that ranks her the top graduate from Idol.
    Underwood has 11.5 million in albums and 13.9 million single sales. The country singer also had 2.4 million radio plays since she won Idol in 2005.

    I would still term this a senseless argument- I say Billboard, others say Soundscan, I say global, they say US.
    Radio spins, single sales, album sales.
    It's statistics- anyone can verify almost any argument made.
    They are both doing plenty good.
  15. Apr 11, 2011 #95 of 110
    That Don Guy

    That Don Guy Now with more GB

    Mar 13, 2003
    Benicia, CA
    I don't think so (see the bottom of that post).

    This depends on what you mean by "before the end of the season"; in Season 2, Ryan announced during the finale that both Clay Aiken and Reuben Stoddard had been signed to contracts.

    The only thing the winner gets that nobody else does is a "guarantee" of a recording contract. I think the winner also has an unwritten "right" to have his/her album released first, but I am not 100% sure of this. (I thought this applied to their first singles as well, but wasn't there a year not too long ago where the runner-up's single was released a week before the winner's?)
  16. Apr 11, 2011 #96 of 110

    MNoelH McGruber

    Mar 17, 2005
    Houston, Texas
    While I believe what they are reporting, I also believe it's difficult to compare this in an apples to apples situation. Clarkson has had more years to get more record spins and sales. Maybe by the time Underwood has had the title as long as Clarkson, her record spins will be even or possibly out number those.
  17. Apr 11, 2011 #97 of 110

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

    Aug 1, 2004
    My back yard
    Yep, Archie released Crush a couple of weeks before Cook released Light On in 2008.
    This 'winner releases first' thing has always been convention but I don't believe there is any rule per se.
    And it seems this year all bets are off as Popeater is now reporting that 19 doesn't want to let Pia release anything too early.
    Personally I think all this brouhaha (Pia is releasing a single soon! Pia isn't releasing a single! Pia was seen walking into Electra offices! David Foster wants Pia!) is merely to keep her buzz going.

    Of course.
    It's a ridiculous thing to want to sort out 100%.
    And recent Idols have to battle the increasingly alarming drop in sales that music continues to see.
    Old numbers can't be compared to new numbers.
    But the whole "my Idol is better than your Idol" is what makes much of the Idol bubble go 'round.
    I swear it is like baseball stats :D
  18. Apr 12, 2011 #98 of 110

    aindik Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2002
    Just watched the last 5 minutes of this. I think Randy, J.Lo and Seacrest knew that this vote was the beginning of the end of the show. Seacrest ending the show with "keep watching - we need you" was a new kind of desperate for them.

    I agree with the posts earlier in the thread: if Simon were still there, he would have been telling everyone else how much they suck, and Pia wouldn't have been voted off. I think Randy and J.Lo realized the same thing. It's their fault, both for heaping praise on the undeserving and for using the save too early.
  19. Apr 12, 2011 #99 of 110

    GoHalos Registered User

    Aug 30, 2006
    OC, CA
    Agreed. I chuckled when he said that as it was quite desperate.

    I agree with all of this as well. Maybe this will change their ways...
  20. Maui

    Maui Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2000
    Decatur, IL
    It's a matter of opinion whether they used the save too early. I think Casey deserved to be saved and they were nearly as shocked when he was voted out.

    As for criticism, it almost seems like they are more willing to give constructive criticisms to their favorites (Casey and Pia) because they expect more out of them while just letting the others slide by with a "good job".

    So I do blame the judges and the fact that, as Steven said, ""Boys aren't voting, and girls are jealous." I definitely think the demographics of those who vote plays a big part.

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