Amazon Unbox on Tivo - Series3 HD content, maybe?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by demon, Feb 28, 2007.

  1. Mar 7, 2007 #101 of 169
    slimoli

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    Good! Tivo development team has already a bunch of new things to develop for the S3 and I believe that Amazon can push widescreen and 5.1 quicker. Hidef would be fantastic but I can live with a "DVd like" quality for few months. A 2 hours hidef movie will be downloaded in 6 to 10 hours assuming we have a decent broadband connection and the movie studios could be more interested in promoting Bluray/HDDVD for a while.

    Sergio
     
  2. Mar 7, 2007 #102 of 169
    tase2

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    Thanks guys for putting up the link for me :up:
     
  3. Mar 7, 2007 #103 of 169
    mikeyts

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    A little over 20% of the movies on Xbox Live Video Marketplace are 720p, encoded in VC-1 at an average of about 7.6 Mbps. I've seen a few of those that were stunning--easily superior to DVD (my only complaints are the price and the lack of closed captions). They consume about 6.33 GB for a two hour movie. It never takes much more than 3 hours for me to download one of them. TiVo probably can't do VC-1, but I know that it can handle MPEG-4; I don't know whether it's "vanilla" MPEG-4 or AVC, but if its AVC it should have the same quality as VC-1 at similar bitrates.
     
  4. Mar 7, 2007 #104 of 169
    Fofer

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    This presents an inherent problem for the Xbox 360... and it's 20 GB hard drive.
     
  5. Mar 7, 2007 #105 of 169
    mikeyts

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    Yes--they very badly need to offer a larger drive. You pretty much can't have two feature-length HD films on the drive at once. Not a problem for me personally, but I can see where on a shared system someone might want to download a rental while someone else has one loaded but left unfinished.

    Note that you cannot buy films on XBLVM yet--just rent them. Television show episodes are always purchases. When you're done with them you can delete them, but you retain a right to download them again.
     
  6. Mar 7, 2007 #106 of 169
    ldc3000

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    I think that this will go the way divx went when dvds first came out. Good idea needs some find tuning.
     
  7. Mar 8, 2007 #107 of 169
    larrs

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    Agreed, but nothing is stopping them from at least giving us the choice of anamorphic widescreen and DD5.1 since it is already there on the PC download copies. As posted earlier, HD would be nice, but the size of the download would be tough. I could certainly live with Best quality SD if it were widescreen.

    Some of you who post on Engadget should push for this option as it would be easy for them to handle.
     
  8. Mar 8, 2007 #108 of 169
    Fofer

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    If this is true, I'm surprised the Unbox team has to re-encode every video (considering their short history.) They didn't plan just a little bit ahead?
     
  9. Mar 8, 2007 #109 of 169
    mikeyts

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    Few would agree with you that Divx was a good idea, especially given the timing of its introduction. Joe Average was having a hard enough time understanding DVD at all without there being racks of discs in some stores with the same titles as the open discs across the aisle but at a fraction of the price, which, if he made a mistake and bought one wouldn't work in his open dvd player.

    But I digress :).
     
  10. Mar 8, 2007 #110 of 169
    sockgap

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    I just downloaded an episode of 30 Days from Unbox to my TiVo.
    It's 480i 4:3 and looks like my recordings from standard def digital cable channels. Unbox is OK for content that was originally videoed in SD, and will never be available in true HD but to be popular they have to add HD content. No way will I pay for a SD Hollywood movie for instance, since they all are capable of being TKd into HD and HD is the way I want to watch movies now.
     
  11. Mar 8, 2007 #111 of 169
    jeffshome

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    I purchased a movie while at work and the movie was in my Now Playing list when I got home. I watched the movie but it was SD all the way: no Dolby 5.1; screen format was 480i widescreen but inside a 4:3 format so it had black bars all the way around. I used TiVo’s zoom aspect ratio to fill the screen but this made the video blurry and magnified the over compression.

    All-in-all this new service might be good to catch a TV show you’ve missed but it’s not a “home theater” quality download site – maybe in the future.
     
  12. Mar 8, 2007 #112 of 169
    knightl

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    i'm no expert, but i watched "my super ex-girlfriend" and during uma's flying
    scenes i could hear the sound from left to right in the rear speakers.

    would standard stereo through 5 speakers still provide that effect?
     
  13. Mar 8, 2007 #113 of 169
    TiivoDog

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    I believe that affect comes from Dolby Pro Logic, where it simulates surround sound - I might be wrong as I am not an audiophile even though I have a top of the line Onkyo receiver (SR804)....
     
  14. Mar 8, 2007 #114 of 169
    vstone

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    Maybe they put this together so quickly that they used already encoded source material, like that provided to SD cable channels.
     
  15. Mar 8, 2007 #115 of 169
    TiivoDog

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    Not sure, but Amazon has received the message and they are working on improvement with the Widescreen format, as well as Dobly 5.1 - otherwise, they will be narrowing their market (which is currently probably the larger audience) to the Series2 owners with an SD TV....

    Hopefully, we will see an improvement soon.
     
  16. Mar 8, 2007 #116 of 169
    drew00001

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    Dolby and DTS own the technologies, which are licensed to most mainstream receivers. NEO6, which is owned by DTS, converts stereo broadcasts to 5.1 or 7.1, depending on your setup. Dolby's competition is only capable of converting to 5.1, and, on my Sony receiver, does not sound nearly as good, even compared to NEO6 in 5.1. I set my receiver to automatically use NEO6 when there is an option.

    IMHO, discrete sound channels are always a better option, which means I will be renting DVDs until a 5.1 soundrack can be downloaded from Unbox.
     
  17. Mar 8, 2007 #117 of 169
    Joe3

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    Hey, there are just too many threads on this subject. But here's an idea lost in the pond.

    HD Disc War May Be At Crossroads

    By Greg Tarr -- TWICE, 3/8/2007 6:26:00 AM

    "... Concerning the threat of the rapidly developing video download market, Andy Parsons, Blu-ray Disc Association U.S. Promotions Committee chairman and Pioneer advanced product development senior VP, said bandwidth remains insufficient to deliver a quality feature-length HD video in a reasonable amount of time..."

    My point, now is the time for TiVo/Amazon to strike while these HD DVD guys are a sleep.

    Amazon has been around since the Dot.com wars and won. They have to be seeing this opportunity to strike.

    We do not need a HD DVD player.

    We need Amazon to do what it does best, move quickly and deliberately into HD. As long as this DVD war continues there will exist a small window of opportunity for Amazon that will make them a leader in the HD media delivery landscape. Amazon is the gorilla in every room they enter. However, they have to strike now while the irons hot and the HD DVD guys are asleep.

    If we know a HD DVD release is coming out on Friday, why not download it at midnight and go to bed to wake up with it ready to play or before going to work so it would be there when you get home?

    Isn't this better than driving to the Video store after 5 and finding its sold out and having to drive all the way home with some DVD you didn't want in the first place?

    If Amazon does not strike now with HD downloads they will lose the brief window of opportunity they have and someone else will take not only their great opportunity, but their reputation as well.
     
  18. Mar 8, 2007 #118 of 169
    ashu

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    Currently, I add BR movies to my Netflix queue, and usually get them on release day or the next day.

    I wouldn't be unhappy if Amazon also provided HD really quickly, but the pay-per-view concept, and the cost without extras being equal to the actual BR/HDDVD is not something I'm willing to accept!
     
  19. Mar 8, 2007 #119 of 169
    Joe3

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    Who is saying we have too?
     
  20. Mar 8, 2007 #120 of 169
    kas25

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    Agree totally. No chance in hell I am buying a blu ray dvd player. My entire collection of music, photos and videos will be digital going forward. It is too clean and easy to have content digitally. Even if I give up a little quality at first, I can't see going back.
     

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