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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by demon, Feb 28, 2007.
What was the movie? I'd like to see that myself.
I agree with you, but this just means they are aiming at the same market that VOD does. All VOD offered by my cable provider is 4X3 and not HD. It also looks a lot worse than either a DVD or the regular feed from the particular channel. For instance, I missed recording an episode of Rome on HBO last year and watched it instead off of HBO on Demand- the quality was far worse than tuning in to HBO and watching it live (even in SD).
Since most of this right now is aimed at S2 users, they would have issues for many people who have those S2s connected to 4X3 tvs if they sent widescreen mateial (tall skinny people)- that is "unless" Tivo could come up with a way to letterbox the widescreen videos if your box was set as "widescreen" in the setup menu (like the dvd flag). Could happen if Tivo/Amazon/Content Providers could agree on it and make an anamorphic copy available.
That being said, the only time we use VOD is if we miss an episode of a favorite program or if the kids are home alone and don't want to re-watch one of the 500 or so DVDs we own. For that, I can live with 4X3. After all, my entire "now playing" list is my VOD.
Again, this is just like my cable comany's VOD, which is the market they must be aiming for.
Exactly what competition would that be? MovieLink, CinemaNow and Xbox Live Video Marketplace all have 24 hour viewing periods.
Does anyone know of a (non-pornographic ) video download site with a longer viewing period?
Why is the aspect ratio only 1.33:1 for the TiVo downloads? i figured i would try it out since they give you $15 of free downloads when you sign up with your tiVo account. But everything for the TiVo is in 1.33:1 while the PC version is 1.78 like it should be.
This whole thing gets me concerned we'll never get eSata, MRV or TTG. If Tivo is infringing on cable company profits (and VOD is profitable), then I wonder if cable labs will just drag their feet on other things?
On the other hand, if you can download content from Amazon, etc, it doesn't make any sense not to be able to at least move content from one Tivo to another over your network, does it?
I guess I should've been more clear - I was specifically talking about whether the movies would be in widescreen format with dolby digital on tivo boxes (series 3 at least, obviously series 2 would be impossible, but 4:3 letterboxed for a series 2 would still be nice). Unless I'm mistaken, your previous post was about download to a computer...
From what I've read so far, movies are only available in 4:3 format for tivo download.
CORRECTION: Ok, so looking at some other posts, it looks like things are 4:3 letterboxed. At least that's a start... Too bad they don't offer anamorphic for s3 owners though.
There is a HUGE difference between my VOD and Unbox: My VOD is FREE for more than 90% of the movies (all SHO,HBO,MAX and all TV shows). I think it's so bad that I don't watch VOD even free of charge , let alone paying 3.99 each.
I dunno that MRV or TTG are so much the concern of CableLabs. (Although I guess that verifying that protected content can never be moved for MRV or TTG would be CableLabs' business). Both mechanisms involve making a second copy of a recording, and if that recording is marked "Copy One Generation" that's explicitly disallowed. Both should be allowed for core basic cable channels, since the providers aren't allowed to mark that any protection mode other than "Copy Freely".
This Unbox stuff is junk, pure and simple. Allow downloads of HD movies with at least DD5.1, and allow them to stay on the Tivo HD for as long as I wish, and then I might try it again. Until then, this has got to be the biggest waste of programming for the Tivo since the other rediculous product called TivoCast. What a joke! FORGET about this crap Tivo! Get to work on TTG, especially allowing ANYTHING from my PC to be STREAMED to the S3.
Now THAT would be something to rave about!
I actually like TiVoCast. Sure, it needs more content offerings, but other than that, I think it's pretty cool. And I'm on an S3 with a 61" HDTV. If we see no more content within 3-6 months I'll agree it's silly. But I'll be patient and hopeful in the meantime.
Cannot link from work but check out engadget.com.
Look for Amazon's Unbox now available dated today.
Check out the comments section. Look at comment 17 by Sam Gigliotti
Good find, I hope it's true:
This googling was encouraging:
Per the post I placed on the other Amazon Unbox thread, which I provided below, my suggestion regarding folks that already purchased an SD / 4:3 should be provided an opportunity to upgrade to the HD. The response was received well by the Rep, who was running it up the ladder, so I hope it touches Sam Gigliotti (Lead Engineer), who seems to be in touch with what the community is requesting - certainly if they want this to be a success among all Tivo users:
If you purchased a video you can already redownload it whenever you want. The problem would be if they thought the HD version was a different product from the current SD version. Currently they don't distinguish between PC, TiVo and mobile so I can't see that being a problem. So if HD content ever shows up, I expect to just say downlaod it to my S3 and it'll be HD.
Is Sam Gigliotti a Tivo or Amazon engineer?
Unbox is an Amazon product so I assume Amazon. Also that other link pointed to him being in Seattle, where Amazon lives.
You do realize that the majority of TiVo users on are on S2 platform. So why would they cater to S3/HD users instead of those users on initial product launch? Amazon doesn't have HD content yet, so TiVo can't magically provide HD content. Amazon is in a race with plenty of other providers and it only makes sense they will be adding HD content sooner rather than later. So, I don't think S3 users will be without HD content from Unbox forever.
According to his linkedin profile, he is a Software Development Engineer at Amazon.com in Seattle.
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