Amazon Unbox on Tivo - Series3 HD content, maybe?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by demon, Feb 28, 2007.

  1. Feb 28, 2007 #1 of 169
    demon

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    I imagine that most of us know that TiVo Series3's MPEG video decoder chip supports more than just the MPEG-2 streams that ATSC and QAM provide, and the ones generated by its own MPEG encoder chips - it also supports MPEG4 Part 10 (aka H.264) video content. I know that currently the Series3 is new, and it's not exactly been deployed to a wide audience yet, but with the advent of downloadable video content via Amazon Unbox on TiVo, is there any chance that they'll offer moves in HD quality as part of the Unbox service?

    I also have an Xbox360, and there are a few movie downloads available there, but the selection is a bit, shall we say, slim - and the selection of titles actually *in* HD resolution (720p only) is even slimmer. I know it'd take longer to download, but for those who are willing, is there even a chance? Until Blu-Ray/HDDVD hybrid players become (a) practical (i.e., not a half-done deal like the new LG hybrid player) and (b) affordable, I'd like to be able to get recent movies in HD somehow. I'd given up on TimeWarner's HD PPV selection (their movie selection in HD was almost universally made up of movies I'd never heard of and that didn't interest me - not even a little, mostly arthouse fare - as well as being a very short list) before I got the Series3, so that option's right out in my book.

    I know that if anyone's actually involved in the Unbox on TiVo beta, they're probably bound by NDAs, but I figured I'd throw the idea out there, in hopes that discussing it might make it happen. You never can tell.
     
  2. Feb 28, 2007 #2 of 169
    drew00001

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    I'm no expert, but it seems like there are too many barriers to prevent HD movie download. The size of the download is only one of them. The most significant is that Sony owns both the bluray technology and a great deal of the popular movie rights. I expect Sony has great interest in preventing SD and HD download and has been a key contributor to keeping the XBOX and Unbox movie download slim. :rolleyes:
     
  3. Feb 28, 2007 #3 of 169
    lawilson2

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    More and more people are getting 10-20Mbps connections. I have a 20Mbps connection and I intend to use it, with or without Tivo. I can't believe that they are taking so long to finally offer some downloaded content. TiVoCast sucks; I can see better quality watching those shows online on the provider's website. It actually looks worse on my HDTV.

    I have the Xbox 360 and I downloaded a movie to test it out. I like the concept, the HD was right on (Poseidon). If I watched one movie/week, this service would be great for me, but I use Netflix, and I can average 12-18 movies/month, especially in the TV off season. The Xbox 360 with Vista Media Center is a good start with content; I'd like to see more with TiVo, or the 360 may end up being my new cable box.
     
  4. Feb 28, 2007 #4 of 169
    SugarBowl

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    I believe iTunes makes HD content available for download to Apple Tv.
     
  5. Feb 28, 2007 #5 of 169
    ah30k

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    Can your connection maintain 20mbps long term? Based upon the Comcast advertisement for their speeds they call it something like a 'boost' for short spurts. I never tested it but I suspect my 15mbps connection might slow down if I am downloading HD content.
     
  6. Feb 28, 2007 #6 of 169
    btwyx

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    I've never seen any HD content from the iTunes store. That's basically the comeptition to unbox and over their they're also eagerly awaiting the arrival of HD content.

    HD downloads would be nice, but I'll take good SD downloads. I currently have no PPV options at all, Unbox looks like it could be it.
     
  7. Mar 1, 2007 #7 of 169
    yunlin12

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    C'mon Unbox! I'm tired of using Blockbuster or Netflix online rental. I hate the pressure of watching my quota of DVD's ecery month, or otherwise having to waste my monthly fees.
     
  8. Mar 1, 2007 #8 of 169
    Greeble

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    HD movies from unbox would be awesome. Please give this consideration. Also since the mpeg decoder on the Tivo can do these codecs, how about looking into supporting the usb HD-DVD drive for xbox. Imagine the convinience of watching HD-DVDs directly from the TIVO menu with the peanut remote.
     
  9. Mar 1, 2007 #9 of 169
    cokyq

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    I have been using Blockbuster Online for Blu-Ray rentals. I return the BDs to my local BB store and for every returned movie you can rent a DVD at the store (no BD at the store yet though). $14.99/month, 3 movies out at a time, not a bad deal. Let's see the pricing on Unbox HD movies and see if it is makes $ense,

    PD. I have been using a PS3 as my Blu-Ray player and have been very pleased.
     
  10. Mar 1, 2007 #10 of 169
    larrs

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    I was unaware that you could return the BD movies to the store. I have also been unable to find the BD movies on Blockbuster.com. Where are they?

    EDIT: In my best Rosanne Rosanna Danna voice: "Nevermind". (I found them)
     
  11. Mar 1, 2007 #11 of 169
    pmiranda

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    I never even thought of that. That would be sweet, although I already have a DVD player and HTPC, neither has an HD drive.
     
  12. Mar 1, 2007 #12 of 169
    SugarBowl

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    oh. From looking at the iTunes previews of 24, it certainly seemed to me that it was in HD. I never actually paid for any downloads though.
     
  13. Mar 1, 2007 #13 of 169
    yunlin12

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    Would Unbox be a way to get around the HD format war between HD DVD and Blueray? I have the Xbox 360 add-on that does HD DVD, and rent from Blockbuster online's HD DVD lineup once a while. If they can do HD download, without physically tied down to a disc, then maybe we won't have to deal with this format s**t any more.
     
  14. Mar 1, 2007 #14 of 169
    drew00001

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    I Agree!! Bluray and HD will be very short term solutions for early adopters only. The rest of us will hold out for downloadable HD content.
     
  15. Mar 1, 2007 #15 of 169
    pmiranda

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    Until downloads get a bunch faster, I think physical discs will still be the main way of getting movies. I doubt any downloads are going to have special features common on DVDs today, like director commentaries, alternate endings, and making-of featurettes.
     
  16. Mar 2, 2007 #16 of 169
    Deacon West

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    I got the same message from Comcast stating I should power down my modem for one minute and reconnect. What is the technology behind this so called boost?
     
  17. Mar 2, 2007 #17 of 169
    doormat

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    10Mb/s? What is 1080p content in H264? I did the math a while ago and it was something like 10Mb/s. Even me with a 6Mb/s pipe could buffer the first half of the movie and then start watching. Say, pick movie, cook dinner, eat, clean up and then watch the movie. 720p is even smaller at around 6Mb/s, or realtime for my connection speed. The question is can the CM network and Amazon's provider keep up. I downloaded Windows Home Server from MS the other day and was getting about 650-700K/s.
     
  18. Mar 2, 2007 #18 of 169
    cokyq

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    Unbox will not do much for me if no HD content (even if it is 720p) is available. I am hooked on HD and really do not watch much SD content anymore. I cancelled my AppleTV order based on no HD program available in iTunes.
     
  19. Mar 3, 2007 #19 of 169
    rdrrepair

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    Really, Fox channels are at 720 and I watch 24 on a 70" Sony XBR and I don't really feel cheated. I would like 1080 but the 720 isn't that bad!
     
  20. Mar 3, 2007 #20 of 169
    pmiranda

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    By my back-of-the-envelope calculation, 720p uses 89% of the bandwidth of 1080i... even though it's only 1280x720, it's a full 60 frames per second, whereas 1080i may be 1920 wide, it only carries 24 or 30 frames per second. In fact, since I imagine most movies are encoded at 1080i24, 720p60 actually uses more bandwidth.
     

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