Amazon Unbox in HD

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by dolfer, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. Aug 8, 2007 #1 of 300
    dolfer

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    Has anyone heard any rumors about Unbox HD?

    Considering Xbox Live is able to do it, I would think Amazon should be able to pull it off.
     
  2. Aug 8, 2007 #2 of 300
    jordanz

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    I downloaded a movie last night! It works great. The Tivo HD is an amazing box. There are so many great features - I'm just beginning to explore them all.
     
  3. Aug 8, 2007 #3 of 300
    Stu_Bee

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    Jordanz...you didn't download an Amazon HD movie, which is what Dolfer is asking about.
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    Dolfer:
    It sure is possible, but I guess the % of HD capable tivo's might make it less inviting to amazon for the expense of re-encoding all their movies to HD-mp4.
    As the new S3-HD gets popular, I hope they do consider it.
     
  4. Aug 8, 2007 #4 of 300
    dipdewdog

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    It would be silly of them not to move toward HD content if they really want to compete with services like XBox live and Comcast's On Demand offerings, not to mention HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.

    Fingers crossed that it will happen soon.
     
  5. Aug 8, 2007 #5 of 300
    dolfer

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    Stu, don't forget that Unbox also works with PCs. So luckily it's not based on Tivo numbers alone.
     
  6. Aug 8, 2007 #6 of 300
    Chevy_Cowboy

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    It'd be a nice first step if they'd just offer widescreen and 5.1 sound

    As it stands Unbox is pretty silly IMO.
     
  7. Aug 8, 2007 #7 of 300
    SugarBowl

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    Downloadable HD is the "future" of home movie viewing. Not the present.
     
  8. Aug 8, 2007 #8 of 300
    snathanb

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    It takes me forever long just to download an SD unbox... 768k connection only.

    But, really... if it weren't for the $15 credit Amazon gave me... I wouldn't even use it.
     
  9. Aug 8, 2007 #9 of 300
    jordanz

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    Oops - you're right. Sorry about that.

    I do get HD movies on my XBOX, though ;)
     
  10. Aug 8, 2007 #10 of 300
    TerryTT

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    Why? mpeg4 cable hsi or fios...
     
  11. Aug 8, 2007 #11 of 300
    jmpage2

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    Download HD content through MS on the Xbox, and others, is really starting to take off.

    I have an HD DVD player and now watching movies even at DVD resolutions is painful. I really hope that Amazon Unbox is offering decent HD movies sometime in the near future. :up:
     
  12. Aug 8, 2007 #12 of 300
    vstone

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    On the other hand, that might be why we aren't seeing any HD.
     
  13. Aug 8, 2007 #13 of 300
    jmpage2

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    I would imagine that making it so HD versions play on Tivo boxes or other "copy protected" devices would be a pretty trivial thing to do.

    The real holdup with HD movies for download is the massive bandwidth requirements.

    If you want to download the movie in any reasonable amount of time the transfer rate has to be quite high, if you have 10,000 people downloading a popular HD movie like '300' at 1000kbps each it's going to require some SERIOUS bandwidth at the server end.
     
  14. Aug 8, 2007 #14 of 300
    Dan203

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    I don't expect to see HD content on Unbox until after TiVo gets the MPEG4 playback feature working on S3 units. Until then Amazon would have to use MPEG2, which would create a huge file that would suck up a ton of their bandwidth and take a very long time to download even on a fast connection. (HD MPEG2 is about 4 times the size of SD MPEG2)

    Dan
     
  15. Aug 8, 2007 #15 of 300
    jmpage2

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    Can the Tivo decode VC1?
     
  16. Aug 8, 2007 #16 of 300
    yunlin12

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    The Tivo HD is capable of VC1, but not the S3

    THD has Broadcom 7401
    http://www.tivolovers.com/a-review-of-the-tivo-hd-digital-media-recorder/
    http://www.broadcom.com/products/Ca...udio-Video-Graphics-System-Processors/BCM7401
    It specifically says VC-1

    Tivo S3 has Broadcom 7411
    http://www.tivolovers.com/a-review-of-the-tivo-series3-hd-digital-media-recorder/
    http://www.broadcom.com/products/Ca...udio-Video-Graphics-System-Processors/BCM7411
    Which is H.264 capable, but not VC-1

    Since both HDDVD and BlueRay uses VC-1, you think Tivo would get more HD compatibility with this new chip?
     
  17. Aug 8, 2007 #17 of 300
    mikeyts

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    If you read the BCM7411 product brief and not just the little synopsis on the web page, you'll see:
    • Multi-standard video decoding support for:
      • MPEG-2 MP@ML
      • MPEG-2 MP@HL
      • AVC HP@L3.0 for 480i
      • AVC HP@L3.2 720p
      • AVC HP@L4 1080i
      • AVC HP@L4.1 1080i for Blu-Ray and HD DVD
      • VC-1 AP@L3 1080i
    At the top of its list of features and:
    • VC-1 advanced profile decoder
    as the second line-item in its list of "Functional Components", and finally, the paragraph:
    There's an implication that it can only handle 1080 VC-1 AP, which seems a bit silly, but that may be all that's required for an HD video disc player and that's what they were thinking of when they engineered the feature. Who knows?

    The product brief for the BMC7401 doesn't seem to specify any format limitation for VC-1 encoding, and the device can handle VC-1 Simple and Main profiles as well as the Advanced profile. It can also output at 1080p24 and 1080p30 which the BMC7411 can't.
     
  18. Aug 8, 2007 #18 of 300
    sbiller

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    Dan,

    Can you provide more details on the MP4 playback feature? Is this something that you expect to see in the next software update?

    TIA,
    Sam
     
  19. Aug 8, 2007 #19 of 300
    bkdtv

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    All versions of the BCM7401 and BCM7411 will decode MPEG-4 and VC-1 formats at 720p and 1080i. The BCM7401 and the latest revision of the BCM7411 (which the S3 may not have) can also handle 1080p24 decode and output.

    The BCM7411 is the decoder used in the first-generation Toshiba HD-DVD players, as well as the Samsung BD-P1000 and BD-P1200 Blu-ray players.
     
  20. Aug 8, 2007 #20 of 300
    Bierboy

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    Don't hold your breath... :(....the other dealbreaker (especially for those of us who are hearing impaired) is no closed captioning/subtitles.
     

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