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Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by takeagabu, Aug 29, 2014.
I think by now everyone knows my opinion on the likelihood of custom folders.
Well, fix MPEG4 first. As is with IOS, those who have Android, if you have MPEG4, which more are going to, Stream will not work.
1. Amazon Instant is still unavailable on Google's Android and Apple TV. Both platforms were around long before TiVo's Premiere 2010.
2. Walmart's Vudu is still unavailable on Apple TV.
3. TiVo does not develop third party applications. Amazon and Walmart are responsible for their own platform priorities and development schedules.
4. For most TiVo's ability to view live TV, DVR playback, Netflix, YouTube, HuluPlus streaming, and Amazon Video is 'one box to rule them all'
5. Game consoles (PS3, Xbox 360,Wii) have massive user bases (80-100 million units sold each) which application developers crave.
6. The falsity that TiVo has no competition and therefore it's products suffer seems to belie the fact that 99% of all DVRs are competitor brands. Usually the market leaders (Comcast, TWC, UVerse, FIOS, DirectTV, Dish) are considered competitors.
7. TiVo Roamio is still the best overall DVR available. And seasonal updates to the DVR just highlights this.
8. Now, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
This is great news indeed! Now that Amazon Prime and Vudu will finally be available on the TiVo, my Rokus will soon be relegated to porn.
These are marketing decisions made by Apple and Google. They won't allow these competitors to compete with the iTunes and Google Play stores.
How many channels have really gone MPEG4? I am sure it is market dependent, but I was unaware that any market had completed or even made significant progress on the conversion.
Am I misinformed?
I haven't found a channel yet on FIOS - though that doesn't mean they don't exist, just not a channel I stream.
Great DVR, sure. One box to rule them all, as marketed 4 years ago? Not. Doesn't matter whether Tivo writes the apps or not, it's their platform and their responsibility to work with the partners.
So the puzzler is why all this crap takes so long, not whether it's possible. That's all.
I think we know why this took so long- they designed a new box and moved to a new programming platform to make things better. There could hardly be a bigger distraction to improving things like an app platform than those two huge projects. Now that those are done, I am optimistic that other improvements can be made more quickly.
We'll have to wait and see...
Cox here has had several, for a while now, and put them in just below 1GHz, making them inaccessible to devices that can't tune past 860Mhz and/or can't do MPEG-4.
They claim these channels are only available on their own boxes, and only with the whole Contour package (leased hardware + higher price services + bring your own tablet/phone devices). I get them just fine, and don't have any Contour equipment, or package. It just helps convince those with their older boxes that can't get those channels, that they need the Contour whole home and beyond package. They get away with murder with all the things they advertise are free, but cost extra, as well as those they claim require the highest price bundle they offer, but actually don't. The uninformed get suckered by this stuff, much like TiVo is trying to sucker new TiVo subs out of those uninformed about what a base-Roamio provides, but has been gutted from the Roamio OTA (the former being the best informed choice for many, maybe even most).
Yeah, I knew there were a few channels in a few markets - and I assume there are a few select test markets that are more converted than others.
Yes, the Series 4 and above can handle those channels just fine - it is the stream that isn't setup for it yet. And while I cam empathize with the OP, it just doesn't rise to the level of impact that lack of Android support had for the last two years.
It is good to hear that TiVo is making it a priority for early 2015 - The complaint should be coming from the S3 owners IMHO.
When will this be released?
No idea why owners of an old end of life product not being updated should complain.
I do not have any S3 devices any longer, and generally I would agree with you. But this will completely brick the devices for all but OTA - that is different from simple functionality.
Lifteime S3's still have a reasonable resale value, you can easily get $200 for a unit in good shape. The secondary market is of real value to TiVo. While they may not get money directly, it brings people into the ecosystem and makes them far more likely to upgrade later.
that is all
Next for me: profiles (or at least folders), HBOGO
BTW my guess/hope is that with the major under-the-hood software redesign out of the way it'll open up the flood gates to meaningful development...apps. UI, etc.
I thought the tivo already did amazon video. I kknow my premiere does, its how my wife watches RuPaul's drag race since Mediacom won't get LOGO
Just got a tweet that the priority list sign-up is open for the upcoming release, hopefully it will be the one with the Amazon update.
Don't mean to derail the thread, especially now that the Priority page is alive again, but profiles is very different than custom folders. I agree with you that custom folders is not ever going to happen with Tivo. Profiles on the other hand is much more likely and has actually already been shown in the initial Premiere mock-ups. That doesn't mean it's going to happen but it does mean that profiles were once on the Tivo roadmap.
TiVo currently allows you to download stuff from Amazon, using the ancient app that dates back to the Series 3.
But so far that app has never been updated to support streaming. And since Amazon Prime Instant Video only allows streaming, not downloads, it's been rather annoying for those of us with Amazon Prime accounts.
The rumor is that an updated Amazon app is coming (possibly in 20.4.4, aka the fall update) which would support Instant Video streaming, including Amazon Prime Instant Video. And presumably an updated user interface to boot.
I couldn't agree more.
All they need now is HBOGo and my smart TV will be officially useless.