Amazon has announced a DVR

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    aaronwt

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    For regular streaming services, nothing. The experience will be identical to a wired connection. Since all streaming services use low bitrates. For me with either wired or wireless, all streaming services either start at a UHD encode or ramp up to it within a few seconds.

    Where I need the faster throughput is from local play back. I have many files with bitrates between 100Mbps and up to 200 Mbps. You can't play those on a 100BT wired connected that gives you a max throughput of only 95Mbps.
     
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    I still like having everything hardwired. I may switch to wireless at some point though just to reduce the mass of cabling behind my HT setup.
     
  3. dlfl

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    What kind of files have those high bitrates?
     
  4. dlfl

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    This definitely involves recast integration. See my earlier post including the link to AFTVnews.com that gives more detail:
    Amazon has announced a DVR
     
  5. cwoody222

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    I don’t see this. Do you have a Tecast on preorder?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I read the AFTV article now.
     
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  6. dlfl

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    It is a little misleading. The AFTV article led me to expect "On Now" as a selection at the top of the home screen, whereas you have to scroll down to that row. That is tedious to me. On my FTV Cube I've tried "go to on now", "open on now", etc., none of which work. However I can just say "(alexa) open guide" and I immediately get the program guide grid. I don't know what would happen if there is nothing to display in the grid (such as PS Vue, Amazon Channel(s), Recast, or Pluto). The only source I have is Pluto (must be installed) so that's what I get.

    Only 4 more days till someone will have a Recast in hand! Eager for reports! I wish I could justify buying one but I have a Roamio Basic (846) that can be configured for OTA when I cut cable.
     
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    Thanks for this! I just installed Pluto and couldn't find the "On Now" guide myself, your explanation helped!

    Nice that I didn't even need to create a Pluto account, just install and go.
     
  8. dlfl

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    Yes, I don't know what having a Pluto account does for you.
     
  9. Prestond

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    Hey if anyone gets a Recast, post here your experience with the device... Curious to know.

    May take a couple of days for any reports or reviews if they don't ship until Wednesday (will people who pre-order get them on Wednesday or will they just ship that day?). Not sure why they waited unless they are looking for a black Friday or cyber Monday bump.
     
  10. dlfl

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    Yes. Clearly stated on Recast product page.
     
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    No shipping notification yet for me, so I definitely won’t be getting it today.
     
  13. Bigg

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    The frame rate thing is interesting, I just wish that they would convert 1080i to 1080p, not 720p, as there is a loss of resolution at 720p, and it's noticeable, at least to me. I'm sticking with TiVo myself, but this is an interesting device for people who are into the Amazon Ecosystem.
     
  14. mschnebly

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    We'll find out about both of these over time now that they look like direct competitors. Amazon has massive amounts of money and will probably refine this to fit it's costumers pretty quickly. I'm betting at some point they will give away the fire stick with it. It's really nice to see all these options!
     
  15. NashGuy

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    I've read two reviews for it so far. The Verge gives it a 7.5 while SlashGear gives it an 8.0 (both out of 10). Both reviewers like it overall but ding it for supporting only two concurrent viewers and because the mobile app isn't great. The app doesn't even allow you to schedule future recordings, although Amazon has said that will change.

    At any rate, the Fire TV Recast sounds like a very good effort for a first-gen product. Will be interesting to see how competitors respond. Will Roku and/or Apple come out with similar offerings for their ecosystems? Or might we see either of those platforms work with existing OTA DVR options like HDHomeRun or Tablo to better integrate their features into Roku or Apple devices?
     
  16. mschnebly

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    Apple should come out with one of their very polished version of this. Amazon might have just kind of rushed this to get it out before Christmas.
     
  17. tarheelblue32

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    Apple is probably the last company I could see coming out with a DVR. Apple always seems to be looking to the next thing, not going back and creating a product that's been around for two decades. It would be like Apple coming out with their own DVD player. I just don't see it happening.
     
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    Yeah. I tend to agree. It would be nice for us Apple TV owners if Apple decided to throw some pocket change at Channels and buy their app/DVR service (which works with HDHomeRun network tuners) and just integrate it into the upcoming revamp of Apple's own TV app. I think that's pretty unlikely too but it feels to me more like something they might do than fully embrace OTA TV by bringing out their own tuner/DVR hardware.

    But, as you say, Apple is very future-focused and I suspect they see antenna-based TV as antiquated, clunky and downscale, all descriptors which Apple wants to protect their brand from like the plague. Still though, we are seeing Apple partner with clunky old cable TV providers like Spectrum to allow the Apple TV to be used as a cable box...
     
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