Amazing Race - 4/19/09

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by VegasVic, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. Ruth

    Ruth Well-Known Member

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    I think that's a personal choice and it's not my place to tell him how he should live his life. (I also think he might not agree that he's not giving anything up -- for example, he might face new challenges within his primary community as a result of his choices.)
     
  2. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

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    You mean his deaf friends might shun him for being able to communicate with the hearing? Those don't seem like very good friends...
     
  3. Ruth

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    I don't know about "shun him for being able to communicate with the hearing" -- that's pretty strong. But they might feel that he betrayed them and their community, and that might create some rough spots in their friendships.

    Anyway, whether you think they are good friends or not, they're his people.

    Also, my understanding is that CIs in the born deaf isn't like getting the right glasses presciption or just learning a new language -- if you're an adult who's never had hearing when you get them, you haven't developed the neural connections that are central to using spoken language, which are formed in very early childhood. You might hear sounds, but your brain might not be able to process them. So it's not like you can suddenly hear and learn spoken language and fit right in. The real-world benefits may actually be very limited or non-existent. There are some medical downsides as well.

    We started out talking about Luke in particular, but we really have no idea why he doesn't use his CIs. It could be political and related to the issues we've been discussing, or it could be that they simply don't give him any real-world benefit, or some combination of both.
     
  4. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    When it is said that Luke "doesn't use" his cochlear implants, what exactly does that mean? Can they be turned on and off? Must one do something to make them work? Or is it merely a factor that the person has to really concentrate to be able to process the sounds that are "heard" by the CIs and he's simply unwilling to put in that kind of effort. I'm just confused how someone can choose not to make use of a device that has been surgically implanted. It's not like someone can choose not to use their pacemaker if they don't want to.
     
  5. Ruth

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    There's an internal component (implanted surgically), and an external component. The external part is battery-powered and can be turned off or removed.
     
  6. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Thanks, I didn't realize that. I thought the surgically implanted portion negated the requirement of wearing an external, battery-powered device such as a hearing aid.
     
  7. Ruth

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    No. Actually the external part of a CI is typically larger than a modern HA would be. There needs to be both a microphone, and a speech processing and transmission unit. What CIs do is bypass the hearing centers entirely and stimulate the auditory nerve directly. That creates sound, but it isn't like the sounds hearing people hear. The external computerized components process the sound into something that is more recognizable.

    This site is from a CI manufacturer and has a lot of detail and images about the components:
    http://www.bionicear.com/Products/Components_of_a_Cochlear_Implant/index.cfm?langid=1

    Wiki has a lot of info, too:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochlear_implants#Functionality
     
  8. Idearat

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    I'm happy to digress from the show.

    I thought the comments above about deaf community vs hearing were interesting. I wonder if the same comments would be made if substituting black/white (or white/black, or gay/straight ) in the same paragraphs.

    Why should I be pushed to associate with *. ? I've got a full community already.
    I don't want to do anything to help me communicate better with *.
    If I did, my * friends might shun me.


    Not able to hear a car zooming up behind you at a crosswalk is a handicap

    Not wanting to communicate with 99% of the world except with pencil and paper is a lifestyle choice.
     
  9. TIVOSciolist

    TIVOSciolist Bye to High Society

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    A few thoughts:

    1. The legal definition of a "battery" is the intentional harmful or offensive touching of another person. From the video, it looks as though Luke might have just been lifting his left arm in an attempt to remove the contact, which he is entitled to do. (Compare German Chancellor Angela Merkel lifting up both arms when President Bush came up behind her and surprised her with an impromptu shoulder rub.) From a legal standpoint, the question then is whether a certain amount of consent to nonviolent touching between contestants is implied by the nature of the race. (For example, the right to forcefully touch another player is implied in a game of football. However, it might not be so implied in a game of tennis.)

    2. TAR needs to get a new sound editing guy. The underlying "oriental" music and the constant banging of a gong (added as a dramatic exclamation point) is cliche. It's a stupider version of a forced laugh track.

    3. If Tammy and Victor could only have gotten a few minutes lead going into the calligraphy task, they could have gained a substantial lead arriving at the Pit Stop. The other two teams rode their coat-tails. If those other teams had been left on their own, they likely would have floundered for quite a bit of time. (It's surprising how few regular people speak decent English in China.)

    Unfortunately, the Li River and the lake with the pagodas are major landmarks in Guilin. Thus, there is less chance of a team getting lost by taxi and, thus, opening up a time gap between racers.

    4. I'm rooting for Tammy and Victor, mainly because I can't get myself to like any of the other remaining teams.
     

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