Amazing Race - 4/19/09

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by VegasVic, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. Apr 20, 2009 #41 of 129

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003


    That makes their statement at the mat make more sense. Phil tells them they are team number four, and they say, "Were there five teams on this leg?"

    I think the Pit Stop time is taken up almost entirely with eating, sleeping, getting cleaned up and doing interviews. It's entirely possible that Jamie and Cara were doing an interview when Mike and Mark came into the pit stop, and then were asleep when Mike and Mark finished their interview, and then were awake and gone before Mike and Mark woke up, etc.

    But I'm surprised they're not briefed a little bit on the upcoming leg, especially about how many teams are still left.
  2. Apr 20, 2009 #42 of 129

    MrGreg New Member

    May 2, 2003
    I felt bad for Tammy and Victor on this leg. At least they're working together now. At the mat during the argument you could tell they both just wanted to step back and disappear.
  3. Apr 20, 2009 #43 of 129

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    I agree....I nearly fell asleep during this episode. We don't care about this baloney.
  4. Apr 20, 2009 #44 of 129

    Byteofram Survivor of C-bus

    Oct 29, 2004
    Buckeye Land
    I don't get what the big rush to the clue box is all about...does it really matter if you are 5 seconds behind the other team in grabbing a clue? Just seems silly to get into an arguement over something that waiting 5 seconds more would fix.

    Bad episode and really can't stand any of the teams left. I find myself going back to Victor and Tammy and for awhile I couldn't stand them because of Victor. Always kind of liked Tammy though.
  5. Apr 20, 2009 #45 of 129

    VegasVic Craps Player

    Nov 21, 2002
    The Craps Table


    I wonder how they decide which legs should have bunch ups/equalizers and which ones shouldn't. Most of the time when they leave a country there is a bunch up at the airport but not this time.

    And while the amount of time they spend at the pitstop isn't always the same (sometimes 12 hours, sometimes longer), it seems as if when they arrive during the day they leave at night and if they arrive at night they leave during the day. Last week they arriived at the pitstop during the day and left during the day. Had they left at night M&M may have very well been bunched up with everyone else until the airport opened in the morning and would have had only the speed bump to overcome.

    I imagine this is all planned out in advance of the race, it just seems odd that most of the time when a team falls way behind they have a chance to catch up on the next leg but last night M&M had no shot. Not that they deserved one.
  6. Apr 20, 2009 #46 of 129

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 5, 2002
    Cupertino, CA
    I may be out of line but does anybody else get the feeling Luke is challenged in other ways beyond his hearing. I have meet deaf people before and they just seem more normal. He seems to almost cry at times and at many of the challenges he doesn't seem to get it. Perhaps it because the challenges are explained off camera somewhat and he needs more help than the others.
  7. Apr 20, 2009 #47 of 129
    Havana Brown

    Havana Brown Ring Turner

    Feb 3, 2005
    I thought it was funny that Jen "signed" ***** to Luke as it happened! They must've learned a few signs from them.
  8. Apr 20, 2009 #48 of 129

    heySkippy oldweakandpathetic

    Jul 2, 2001
    Sarasota, FL
    Yeah, he's a teenage boy. Not known for their brains, this group. :D
  9. Apr 20, 2009 #49 of 129


    Jan 27, 2005

    And I simply cannot stand Kisha and Jen. I hope next week pans out from what we saw in previews. :)
  10. Apr 20, 2009 #50 of 129

    LeVich34 Active Member

    Jan 7, 2002
    Annandale, VA
    Here's the thing that struck me. Two teams follow Victor and Tammy across the entire challenge, outright saying they are following them due to their ability to speak the local language. Victor and Tammy, while ensuring their stuff is looked at first, make no attempts to stop this. Then, in a foot-race to the Pit Stop, they dont allow Victor and Tammy to hit the mat first as a sign for all the help they received. Now *THAT* shows their true colors, IMHO.

    Just my opinion. I know its for a million bucks, but is the trip to Barbados enough to kick the Karma Gods awake?
  11. Apr 20, 2009 #51 of 129

    wendiness1 WiiMomma

    Jul 29, 2005
    I think he's just very emotional.
  12. Apr 20, 2009 #52 of 129

    spikedavis New Member

    Nov 23, 2003
    That is an incredibly good point...
  13. Apr 20, 2009 #53 of 129

    goblue97 Welcome Home, Jimmy!

    May 12, 2005
    But Victor and Tammy did plenty to try and screw up the other teams.
  14. Apr 20, 2009 #54 of 129

    Magnolia88 She likes cheese.

    Jun 30, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    I agree with most people that the blame can be spread around. Kisha and Jen are annoying and looked like they were proud to be "scrapping" with the other team (we don't take any crap, yadda yadda), and Margie and Luke overreacted.

    I thought the whole thing was really dumb, and agree with everybody that an extra 2 seconds to wait at the cluebox is not going to make a difference. Just chill out, people. Pushing and shoving is ridiculous.

    In the past, Phil has described the time at the pit stop as "eating, sleeping, and mingling" and there has been more footage shown of the "mingling" between teams.

    I remember in past seasons when there has been a romance brewing (Flo and the Wonder Twin, e.g.), they have shown us footage of that developing during the pit stop. I also remember footage of The ****** pissing people off during the pit stops. But I'm sure the amount of "mingling" varies depending on how much time they have - sometimes it's 12 hours and sometimes it's 36 (and I think some have been in between and the starting times were not exactly 12 hours from the arrivals).
  15. Apr 20, 2009 #55 of 129

    VegasVic Craps Player

    Nov 21, 2002
    The Craps Table
    I agree. Nothing wrong with following Victor and Tammy, it's what any team would/should do. But I probably would have let them win the leg too.
  16. Apr 20, 2009 #56 of 129

    Neenahboy Statistical outlier

    Apr 7, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    I thought the same thing, actually.
  17. Apr 20, 2009 #57 of 129

    ElJay Active Member

    Apr 6, 2005
    What a horrible episode! I'd like to know what idiots in the editing room think we want to see all this lame whining. All of that crap at the mat was a total waste of time. The sisters were in the wrong to begin with. The "*****" move was coming up to a deaf guy from behind and then being surprised that he had an aggressive reaction. Though by the end of the episode Luke wasn't exactly innocent, either.

    Tammy & Victor are the only two I can stand at this point. The cheerleaders are certainly enforcing the stereotype quite well.
    Excellent point.
  18. Apr 20, 2009 #58 of 129

    VegasVic Craps Player

    Nov 21, 2002
    The Craps Table
    Since the M&M boys were so far behind there really was nothing else to show us so they highlighted the "fight". And since there were 3 teams at the mat at the same time and 2 of them started going at it they pretty much had to show it.
  19. Apr 20, 2009 #59 of 129

    RainyCity4 New Member

    Jun 23, 2003
    It Rains A...
    My wife and I are deaf and we were following AR with great interest (and rooting for Luke and Margie). I thought I'd offer some insight about how it feels for Luke about this specific situation.

    It was CLEAR to us that Luke was startled at the first clue box because he didn't expect someone to grab him from behind, especially when he couldn't hear someone running up behind him. In the car, he was pretty pissed when he found out that Jen called him a ***** but I don't recall him saying that nobody should call him a ***** because he was deaf. Our interpretation was that he was upset that Jen called him a *****, nothing else.

    Yeah, I agree with majority of you that he simply overreacted at the second clue box and pit stop (even Margie warned him to just "drop it" several times in the cab on way to second clue box and at the pit stop before Phil asked the question).

    The "laughing at Luke/at the situation", we never felt that Jen and her partner was laughing AT Luke either. Maybe, not at the beginning but when they continued to argue with Margie and Luke, then we did start to wonder if we misinterpreted it and they were in fact, laughing at Luke.

    Sometimes we DO wonder if his upbringing does affect his personality somewhat because watching him, we could clearly tell that he had minimal communications with his family and friends. Especially if he never grew up with strong ties to deaf community.

  20. Apr 20, 2009 #60 of 129

    kettledrum Active Member

    Nov 17, 2003
    Fishers, IN
    Thanks for this insight. It's something one can't understand very well unless they've lived it.

    I can see the flipside to the initial incident too. If someone threw an elbow to my face, whether intentional or not, I'm not going to be happy about it.

    Overall everyone overreacted IMHO, as is probably normal under a stressful situation like this one.

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