Alternate guide data for UK S1 Tivos

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by PhilG, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. mikerr


    Jun 2, 2005
    Lancashire, UK


    Yep - no different to the end user than ordering a replacement drive - many actually do opt to send their tivos to be returned fitted out with new drive and cachecard etc instead of diy.
  2. molesworth

    molesworth New Member

    Jul 9, 2002
    Perthshire, UK
    Isn't the guided setup entirely within the box? I didn't think it did any external communication. There again, it's been a long time since I did one.

    As for the daily call, with the right equipment* it shouldn't be hard to capture the data in both directions to see what's going on, and use the information to create an emulation of the server side. (I'm in the middle of a similar bit of reverse engineering, trying to replace an undocumented debugger for an embedded system, so I know these things can be done - even if they're not always easy.)

    * - I should add, I've no idea what equipment would be needed, but I'm sure it exists...
  3. TCM2007

    TCM2007 Active Member

    Dec 25, 2006
    Possible in theory? Of course - any software developer will tell you anything is possible!

    In practice the last guide data download is in a little over three months, no-one's made the hacked way work yet, and we don't have any way of reaching these non-techies to tell them what to do anyway!
  4. spitfires

    spitfires wassock

    Dec 19, 2006
    South Coast, UK
    ...and parts of the communication are encrypted (i.e. not all the packet contents are in 'clear' text), so you would also have to hack the encryption algorithm.
  5. GarySargent

    GarySargent New Member

    Oct 27, 2000
    W. Yorks, UK


    FYI you can 100% definitely add a different phone number to the dial prefix and TiVo will call it just fine. We have done this in the past - when the 0800 number stopped working we could change to use an 0845 backup number by placing the whole number in the dial prefix field.

    You'd need to make it dial a private dial-up service where you can have a server that has the same IP address as the TiVo one (or use something like NAT to translate the address to another one).

    This would be the easiest route for non-techies, though as others have pointed out emulating the full service would be difficult - mainly because of the blowfish encryption.


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  6. Heuer

    Heuer New Member

    Mar 15, 2004
    Has anyone considered approaching Tribune and asking if they will continue to supply the EPG data, albeit as a subscription?
  7. sculptor

    sculptor sculptor

    Jan 7, 2003
    I have no problems with using this method.
    It's what I did when my original TiVo hard drive started to misbehave.

    I took the step of not transferring my existing season passes and preferences. It didn't take too long to train TiVo again to what I like.

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