Alternate guide data for UK S1 Tivos

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by PhilG, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    I've started this thread to hopefully get some guidance from the moderators and hopefully have a place to discuss UK S1 Tivos going forward

    As Tivo have announced that as of June 1st provision of guide data will cease for S1 UK Tivos, can we now have public discussions about the alternative methods of sourcing guide data?

    I'd hope that the answer is "YES"

    And PLEASE let's not have any discussions on the announcement from Tivo - there are plenty of other threads for that

    I'd like THIS thread to be JUST about workable options for sourcing UK S1 Tivo guide data

    Thanks
     
  2. spitfires

    spitfires wassock

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    I hope otherwise but I think this will still be deemed a forbidden topic so as not to discourage S1 users in VM cable areas from subscribing to the VM TiVo service! :eek:
     
  3. AMc

    AMc Active Member

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    Let's hope not but there is always the other place...
     
  4. TCM2007

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    I think you'll need to do the actual discussing elsewhere - the methods you use could be adopted by US S1 owners to steal service so are unlikely to be "legal" topics here.

    Hopefully will allow the place where they are discussed to be advertised here.
     
  5. jonphil

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    Hope so, I still want my S1 Tivo to record freeview :)
     
  6. CarlWalters

    CarlWalters Yo Ho TiVo!

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    I still want my TiVo to be able to record FreeSat too.

    I'd be a bit disappointed if the topic of obtaining our own guide data was to be outlawed here especially since my lifetime subscription will die in June. A bit like Logan's Run :)
     
  7. sad_tivo_man

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    Where is this 'other place' ?
     
  8. sad_tivo_man

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    I contacted TiVo Inc directly and offered to run the service ...on a commercial basis ..and answer back came there none.

    Having read the TiVo blog where they say 'go upgrade', the arrogance of TiVo Inc goes beyond the pale. Take a look at Scotland, for example. Not much coverage by VirginMedia there.
     
  9. AMc

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    google database, deals and tivo
     
  10. sad_tivo_man

    sad_tivo_man New Member

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    Many thanks..duly bookmarked. Now wonder if I can invoice TiVo Inc for my wasted time in trying to get it all sorted out.
     
  11. PhilG

    PhilG New Member

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    Just posted a question at TivoZA - here
     
  12. spitfires

    spitfires wassock

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    :cool:

    The ZA system is pretty much a port of the Oz/NZ set-up but it would good to know what customisation they had to make (e.g. different postcode format; different signal sources).
     
  13. TCM2007

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    The Dutch also do it.
     
  14. Heuer

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    I suggest we just start discussing the alternative EPG anyway - if we get banned it will not be a problem given the Forum will be extinct in 3 months time. We can't even mention the 'other place' where such topics are openly developed although putting the words 'deal' and 'TiVo' into Google will quickly get you there if you are interested. Hopefully the Moderators will give us some slack so we can work on a plan?
     
  15. sad_tivo_man

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    Seems to me that there are two routes - both complicated. One involves opening up the box, sticking in network cards, re-imaging etc etc. The second, which involves emulating the TiVo Daily Update system, would only involve changing the phone number inside the TiVo itself. All the heavy lifting would be done outside TiVo.
     
  16. Heuer

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  17. sad_tivo_man

    sad_tivo_man New Member

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    Why not? Emulate what the TiVo In server does.
     
  18. DX30

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    There are possible legal issues here.

    The Radio Times for instance allows download for personal use only. They are not happy for an intermediary to take their data, alter its format, then supply that to others.

    So to abide by their T&C the TiVo would need to download directly from the RT website and perform any data manipulation on the TiVo itself. You couldn't legally provide a centralised Daily Update service, especially where money changed hands.
     
  19. TCM2007

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    Easily said, not easily done. AFAIK the daily call process has not been reverse engineered, just the data delivery format.

    If you are not networked you can use the built in modem to dial your ISP and from there download the guide data from a server set up for the purpose. But you need to adapt the software to both do that and to know how to process the downloaded guide data.
     
  20. TCM2007

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    So long as you don't charge you should be OK; Linux software like Myth TV has established some solid guide data.

    Of course for stuff like SPs and Suggestions to work properly, they will require some manual enhancing.
     

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