Alone - Season 6 - 2019 - Spoilers after the first post

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  1. justen_m

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    Jordan has been my favorite to win since he got that moose. Bagging the moose, killing a wolverine, catching lots of fish. He may have had lots of food stolen, but he had food to be stolen. I was super impressed with his gill net ice fishing. I've never seen that. Ice fishing in N Wisconsin is popups or poles.

    I wasn't really rooting for anyone in particular among the final three, but seeing Jordan finish with a big Northern(?) was cool. The reunion with his wife was great to watch.

    Seeing Nathan's shelter go up in flames was nuts! The shelter burnt about midnight, so he had a long night out in the cold. At least he made it out with his sleeping bag. I was sad to see Woniya to go -- she was funny. I think she caught more in her traps than anybody else.
     
  2. worachj

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    Nathan's fire was crazy how fast that thing got out of control. Luckily he didn't get burned and injured! For whatever reason I don't remember too much about Nathan. Wonder how long he could have survived. Not too sure where he was health/mental wise but he seemed strong.

    Everyone was starving and just hanging on. I would've bet that if it wasn't Woniya's birthday she wouldn't have quit. The mental part made her think her birthday was a logical spot to stop. She was tough and fun to follow. At first I thought her drop out video was her winning, but it wasn't.They had me fooled.

    Congrats to Jordan. His skill and toughness won out. Fun season!
     
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    Jordan did better than I thought. 20 lbs is NOT "lots of fish". It's 6500 calories, which is enough for 2 days. I think that the moose was more like 800 lbs and 500 lbs of meat, fat and marrow. He said he had 200 lbs of moose meat remaining when he left. if he'd had 600 lbs, that would mean that he ate 400 lbs of it in 50 days. He claims that he never got tired of it and he lost only 5 lbs of bodyweight after he got the moose. He'd fattened up from 170 lbs to 190 lbs before he went, so he was really only underweight by 5 lbs. He could have lasted another 1.5 months. maybe a bit more, even if he caught no more game or fish. Once again,120 days is the very most you'll have to stay in order to win, folks.
    He made a brush wall to force the moose to pass within 40m of his tree blind, and made a noisemaker string of cans with stones in them. If he heard it in the night, he knew to be in his stand before dawn. He took a BIG chance by not taking the 3 lb block of sea salt, tho.
     
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    the ferro rod is a wasted pick, if you know to use the batteries, the duct tape and the hooks to start a fire. Or if you know to make a big pump dril, or use rust from your saw-edged shovel's ferrule to Ruitiger roll a strip of your shemaugh. Some coatings of iodine, while sill at home, will heavily rust your shovel.Once you have the first fire, there's no reason you can't have charred punk wood and ashed tinder. Then you can easily start fires with any hard rock and any carbon steel tool. You can drill out the ferrule of the Shovel, fitting much larger screws, with T heads so you can remove the handle by hand. Add another screw or 2, and weld nuts on the female threaded side. Then, when make a 2 ft long handle for it, it will be a very good substitute axe. When you make a 4 ft long handle for it, it will chip vertically down thru the ice very well. Put some brush and snow over the hole in the ice. and it wont freeze up nearlth as badly overnight. Then you wont have to cut a 3 ft wide hole in order to get your axe thru 2 ft of ice. :) With the longer handle, you can stand up and move a lot of snow, rocks, dirt, etc. With two lashing holes thru the blade and a right angle forked sapling, the shovel becomes a hoe, a pick, an adze or a rake. Pair such a shovel with a modified Crunch mulitool and you dont need the axe, saw and belt knife. So that's 2 picks that you dont need. This lets you take the tape and the sea-salt. The paracord and the gillnet are also wasted picks, if you know to cut and tear strips off of the tarps and the 2 person hammock, with which you replace the less-useful items. You dont need the sleeping bag, either. then you take a 5qt skillet with lid, the fishing kit (as 25 large single hooks, out of which you'll make 16 small treblehooks, for catching predators). the 1050 ft of camo-dyed stainless steel 20 ga snarewire and a slingbow. Take 6 arrows as flu-flu fletched Zwickey judo-head blunts, and 3 broadheads. You can make baked clay balls as ammo for shots not worthy of an arrow.
     
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    they can make a pontoon outrigger raft in a day. This adds tremendously to your foraging potential. Once you make and set your baited net weirs, you use your craft to stretch a seine out around the weirs and then work your way in, forcing all the fish in that area into the weirs. You can make it say, 5 ft wide, 240 ft long, center it at your center weir, and close one end of the seine to the shore, tying it to a stake. Then go to the other, (still-open) end of the seine and start slapping the water with your paddle. driving the fish in the direction of the weir(s) and then pull that end of the seine to shore, staking it. Paddle to the other end, do the same, while advancing that end of the seine towards the weir(s) Go back and forth until you've closed the gap. Install the holding gates into the weir(s) and empty out the fish at your leisure. Dont leave them too long, or seals, wolves, etc will get them. But you can go warm up, rest a bit, before coming back with a dip net, small seine, fishing spear, etc, to secure all of the fish.

    The raft would have gotten Woniya over to where she spotted a beaver lodge, so as to snare one or more of them. Beaver are full of fat, which you need desperately out there
    To make such a craft, you only need four 6 ft long logs, 4" OD, a pair of 8 ft long logs, 4" OD and a couple of 6" OD logs, 6" OD. You can leave the logs part of it anchored to your net bag full of rocks, and just secure your 5 debris-filled pontoons. and the life vest. You make the pontoons out of your spare set of clothes, the pants of the rainsuit, the camera-case, the backpack. Before you leave home, you waterproof spray the backpack and the one set of clothes. Sew any seams with a straightend-out fishhook, barb filed off with the multitool, and then seal the sames with tape. The shirt of the rainsuit's sleeves will become your water containers.
     
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    People who take the ferrorod, gillnet, paracord or sleeping bag dont know what they are doing. You are way ahead to leave those things behind and instead take the 12x12 tarp, the 2 person hammock, the 3 lb block of sea-salt and the big roll of duct tape. here is the gear list from which contestants must choose. there's half a miilion $ riding on this, with half of it going to SS and IRS when you win.
    https://www.history.com/shows/alone/articles/gear-listGear List
     
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    tons of people "think" that it's vital to make a "heavy duty" shelter right away, but they are wrong. What's vital is that you score many hundreds of lbs of fish and fowl in the first month, and make the heavy duty shelter after you've got enough food to LAST until winter comes. :) They are dropped off in late fall and 59 out of sixty, 6 seasons, have starved out before winter really got there. You can build a FAR more adequate shelter han anyone has so far, in 3 days, if you know what you're doing. They take a week and have inadequate shelters, so they have to run the horrible risk of having a fire inside of it. If it's worth a hoot, you can just stuff it with dry debris and lay in it. You wont be there a month before every one else has starved out, because they've stupidly wasted all of their calories on cutting and hauling wood. You cant be wasting one of your precious weeks of decent weather on making a shelter. You have to be doing all sorts of food gathering things in daylight, and making netting out of the tarps by firelight. The ducks and geese offer 2.5as many calories per lb as fish, with lots of fat and feathers that are very useful. 3" mesh netting suffices to hold waterfowl, you need 1.5" mesh for fish. So the fish netting takes twice as long to make. The fowl are going to migrate soon, the fish cant go anywhere. So WHICH should you focus on catching first, hmm?
     
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    u dont need to keep liquid water.u just need to get some liquid once, cover the top of the shelter with a glase and then have brains enough to not have your fire inside of your shelter. Instead, use a 3 hole gravity fed Dakota fire pit to heat big rocks and take the rocks into your shelter. Once it's too cold to be foraging, you dont want a fire more than once a week, to melt ice and boil the water, so you can fill up the legs and sleeves of the rain suit, have a hot meal and a hot drink and go back inside of your dugout or log or stone and mortar 4x4x7 ft debris stuffed shelter and control your mind for another week
     
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    jordan had 200 lbs of moose meat remaining when he left. The fish meant almost nothing. Woniya caught less than 20 animals total, Average of 500 calories each, so she really only had enough to feed herself properly for a week. The rest of it was all done with heart. Nobody had a chance to beat Jordan, for a fact. I'd have said that I set the baited, suspended hooks for wolverines and it was just unfortunate that a fox got caught.
     
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    you must cube and boil all wild food on this show, if you dont want to risk getting sick. Drink the broth, so you lose no nutrients and dont consume anything until it's falling off of the bone. Guys are dumb to not take a 5 qt skillet with lid. there is no limitation on the size of the skillet and others have taken such in the past. a 2 qt pot is a silly choice.
     
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    I bet on him from the first, cause he'd had years of experience with the Evenki He was also many times more skilled at archery and hunting. When the first episode showed him moose sign, I figuried he'd get on, if any where on his 5 sq mile chunk of the area. He was the only one with brains enough to have flu flu fletching on his small game arrows.
     
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    150 years ago, sleeping bags as we know them didn't EXIST. Most did not have bison, bear hides of sheep skins in which to sleep, either. What they had was bags, woven or pressed, made out of linen, hemp, cotton or wool thread, and then stuffed with local dry debris. One bag under you, one bag atop you. if you had to travel, you shook out the debris and got more at your next site. The contestants rarely move, so there's no need to waste a pick on a modern sleeping bag. Just like there's no need of a ferro rod. but there IS need of duct tape, the 12x12 tarp and the 2 person hammock. There's no need of the paracord or the gillnet, cause you can make much more netting and cordage out of the hammock than you are allowed to take. Once you've made the raised wooden bed, there's no longer need of the hammock. get it? There's always been flocks of waterfowl present and nobody's lifted a finger to catch any of them. A 3 lb rabbit offers at most 1000 calories. Same with a 3 lb fish. A 3 lb duck, tho, has 2200 calories and the extra food comes from fat in the duck's skin which you need desperately out there. YOu can make a 3" mesh, baited net weir for water fowl in just two days. Some ducks will bait to roasted cambium, as will gulls. Others will bait to chunks of chopped up fish. So you might also have to take 4 more days to make a 1.5"mesh net weir, in order to bait the fowl weir and you might have to settle for eating gulls, which taste nasty and have only half of the calories of ducks or geese. but you can never tell when a flock of ducks or geese will drop down into your area, either. The point is, there ARE ways in which to passively feed yourself (very well) that nobody is using and those ways are quite feasible to attempt.
     
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  14. aaronwt

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    Have they announced when a new season of Alone will air?
     

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