Allen vs. Farrow - HBO/HBO Max *spoilers*

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??? "As I've said before, if “Cancel-Culture” was real, this guy wouldn’t be making a movie every year." So because Allen was not "cancelled" before "cancel culture" was a thing, "cancel culture" isn't real.


OHHHHH, Kaaaay.

 

There's really a debate whether Woody Allen is a creep or worse.

Manhattan was a movie about an adult man having a romance with a 16 year old girl. In a 2015 interview Hemingway said during filming when they were going to Paris Allen's plan was to share a room with him. During their kissing scene Allen "attacked her like a linebacker."

Maybe every allegation in the documentary isn't true, but there is enough pattern of behavior from enough different sources. CREEP!

 

Well, remember the 17 year old I mentioned?

She's said that people from Mia's camp have tried to get her to say she was 15 (not 17) when her relationship with Woody began.

Really want to give Mia & her people a pass on that one?

 

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Yes, "Cancel-Culture" is inconsistently applied in the public sphere - do you disagree?

BTW, have you watched this show?

 

No...I really don't have time for four hours of propaganda, which by all accounts is what it is.

 

I'm not "giving a pass" to anyone.

And y'all might not think it's "bad" for a guy to date a woman for over 10 years, then take up an affair with he daughter who he has known since she was 11 or 12; I do.

 

But you have a lot of time to comment in a thread about it?

I don't think the show is any more propaganda than the articles you posted up-thread; but then I have a more informed view, having actually read the articles AND watched the show.

 

17... I’m guessing it was the age of consent at the time.

Woody must have one of these:

 

This wasn't just "his girlfriend." They lived together and adopted at least one child together. He lived in the same house as an adult male for many years when his current wife was a minor. I don't see why a legal document declaring marriage changes any opinion.

My reference to Manhattan was Hemmingway's comments in 2015 concerning Allen's behavior with her. What does that have to do with how the movie ended or a May-December romance? Allen was 45 and Muriel was 16. In what world are Allen's actions ok with regards to Hemingway?

 

They never lived together...apparently, he never even spent the night at her place. And one of the conditions of their relationship was that he would have nothing to do with the children...and by all accounts, he pretty much lived up to his end of that bargain.

 

Yes, how dare they have a thesis and then show evidence in support of that thesis, what a sham.

Woody certainly has as many avenues to get his story out.

 

If you ignore all the evidence on the other side, then yes, it IS a sham. In my teaching days I would have given a paper that did that an F, even if I agreed with their thesis.

 

Have you watched the show yet?

 

Nope. Everything I've heard about it makes it sound like an F paper.

 

You're guilty of exactly what you accuse the filmmakers of.

I've seen both sides of the evidence. The evidence the Farrow side presents is far more persuasive.

 

I've seen both sides, and reached the exact opposite conclusion. The Farrow side only makes any sense whatsoever if you ignore the majority of the actual evidence.