Alcatraz - OAD 1/16/12 - Lost 2.0?

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  1. Jan 17, 2012 #61 of 162
    Jeeters

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    But clones wouldn't necessarily have the same criminal mentality that seems to be a reason these folks were 'chosen' ?
     
  2. Jan 17, 2012 #62 of 162
    Jeeters

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    Purgatory?
     
  3. Jan 17, 2012 #63 of 162
    Jagman_sl

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    Taken to the lab? And as for the criminal mentality, it's clear someone is manipulating them, could they have been programmed from the beginning? There was a scene of Jack being interrogated where he claimed to not know any answers about the things he did, and the tech confirmed that he was telling the truth.
     
  4. Jan 17, 2012 #64 of 162
    TonyTheTiger

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    It was stated categorically that that never happened.
     
  5. Jan 17, 2012 #65 of 162
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    They made a point of having a scene where the Doc & the Cop discuss the fact that Alcatraz had a residential section where the families of the guards lived (and took a boat to school each day... much cooler than a bus! ;) ).

    Then in the command center they showed a room with pics of all the missing inmates on one side and pics of all the missing guards on another.

    So what about the families of the missing guards?

    Are those family members missing as well, or did they ever mention that the families had stopped living on the island prior to the disappearance? And in the latter case, what do those families think happened to their loved ones? It's harder to disappear a prison guard than it is to disappear a prisoner... even in the 60s!
     
  6. Jan 17, 2012 #66 of 162
    Fish Man

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    It would be easier to keep the whole thing secret if the families disappeared too. (Fewer questions being asked by family members.)

    However, that brings up a major plot problem (regardless what the answer is). What about extended families. If all those prisoners and guards (with or without their immediate families) disappeared, and the government wanted the official story to be that they were simply transferred, seems like you'd have an awful lot of grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousin's etc. wondering why they had completely lost touch with them.
     
  7. Jan 17, 2012 #67 of 162
    Satchel

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    I disagree. If he was simply brainwashed, he would not have sought out the warden for killing and his brother for marrying his wife. He would have only killed the guy with the safe.
     
  8. Jan 17, 2012 #68 of 162
    JYoung

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    Yes, it's TV but at 70ish, I don't think he's going to be charging up to building roofs and engaging in gun battles.
    In the scheme of things, it's not a big thing to me but I automatically did the age calculation when it was revealed that he was the second guard in 1963.

    To have access to the prisoner's cells of course.

    And yeah, I'm pretty sure the new "prison" is in British Columbia and not Endor.

    The pilot was obviously shot in San Francisco but it does look like production was moved to Vancouver for cost reasons.

    Alcatraz scored a 3.3 in 18-49 last night so it's probably going to be around for a bit.
     
  9. Jan 17, 2012 #69 of 162
    danterner

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    I didn't get the feeling they were brainwashed. Blackmailed perhaps, or otherwise compelled to act, but not as mindless drones.
     
  10. Jan 17, 2012 #70 of 162
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Better be careful, or Clint Eastwood will beat the crap out of you. :D
     
  11. Jan 17, 2012 #71 of 162
    Fish Man

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    That's exactly who I was thinking of.

    My dad is 75, I'm 50, and he can probably still beat me in a foot race. He always could. He's just genetically a very fast runner. Genetics that I obviously didn't manage to inherit.

    So, some 70 somethings are still pretty spry. I don't have issues with the character being 70ish and still being a badass.

    However, from what we've seen so far, he's not so much a physical badass. We haven't seen him run down a younger person or beat anybody up. He's more a psychological badass. Tenacious and determined. Age has nothing to do with that.
     
  12. Jan 17, 2012 #72 of 162
    TIVO_GUY_HERE

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    Ok, took me awhile, but I just finished it. I never got into lost, and would be happy if that word is never uttered again in this thread, but I guess comparisons will abound.

    So many questions, like others have had, about the family members etc... I guess in time they will be answered.

    Jorge is really playing this part well. I feel like he doesn't belong, and he does too, but that makes his character work.
     
  13. Jan 17, 2012 #73 of 162
    JYoung

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    Yeah, but he's Clint Eastwood.

    [​IMG]

    ;)
     
  14. Jan 18, 2012 #74 of 162
    danterner

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    Chuck Norris is 71. Stupid internet memes notwithstanding, I wouldn't want to scuffle with him.
     
  15. Jan 18, 2012 #75 of 162
    cheesesteak

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    I didn't think it was Lost quality. More like Prison Break quality. I also thought Detective Madsen was way to young to have her level of experience and knowledge. I know they explained it by saying she helped her father solve cases when she was a toddler or something like that but still... I love looking at her though.

    The FOX site lists Sons Of Anarchy as one of Sarah Jones' previous credits. Who was she on SOA? Wikipedia is on strike today so I can't look it up there.

    Never mind. I looked her up using the rest of the internet and found out that she played Polly Zobelle on SOA. I liked looking at her in that role too.
     
  16. Jan 18, 2012 #76 of 162
    Mr. Soze

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    Yes indeed. I knew I'd seen her before, and couldn't place where.

    I never watched Lost. Don't care about Lost. We enjoyed this show, and I am trying to enjoy thinking about it without over-thinking it. Maybe I should avoid these threads. :D
     
  17. Jan 18, 2012 #77 of 162
    RandomTask

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    Smart cop who picks up evidence with her bare hands, then gives it to Doc so they can completely mess up any residue evidence or fingerprints...... Come on, let pay attention to the details people.

    Liked the reveal in part two.
     
  18. Jan 18, 2012 #78 of 162
    MikeMar

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    Cover, just like the sniper guy killing 3 w/ 1 being the real target.
     
  19. Jan 18, 2012 #79 of 162
    RandomTask

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    Why does anyone need a ticket to leave the Island?...... FWIW, I have been there recently and no one cares if you have a ticket to leave. You have to have a ticket to get there in the first place.
     
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    RandomTask

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    He will be 65 this year IRL.
     

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