Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. - S4E1 "The Ghost" 9/20/2016

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  1. RGM1138

    RGM1138 I wanna Rock

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    I'll still getting used to the new set up this season and all the changes, but it's promising.

    Looking at the Ghost segments, they must have increased the budget this year. That flame work obviously wasn't done on an Amiga toaster, but by some expensive VFX house. I hope that they can keep up the quality all season.

    Are FitzSimmons married now, or just FWB?
     
  2. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    FWB.

    And since the whole "Fitz + Simmons = Fitzsimmons" gag was baked into the show from the very first episode, I think their 'ship name should be something else.

    Like Jemmapold. :D
     
  3. sean67854

    sean67854 Why?

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    I read an article somewhere that implied that this Ghost Rider would be Inhuman in origin. I REALLY hope that isn't the case.
     
  4. Azlen

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    Can't say either way but the box contents make it look like they aren't going to shy away from supernatural stuff. I'm sure there will probably be some sort of linkage to the Dr Srange movie as well.
     
  5. john4200

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    How could you possibly miss all of that and think they referred to the director as a woman?
     
  6. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

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    Wouldn't surprise me. The TV series takes place in the same universe as the movies, though lately the reverse isn't true (basically nothing the TV series does has any effect on the movies).
     
  7. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

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    I agree.
    The MCU really hasn't addressed magic at all until this point (even the Asgardians' magic was described as the same as "science" by Thor) and with Dr. Strange coming down the pike, now's a good time for AOS to dip their toes into that magical pool.

    Robbie Reyes is an interesting choice. Wonder what their reasoning was for not using Johnny Blaze. Nic Cage wanting to do another movie?
     
  8. Rob Helmerichs

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    Probably because Robbie Reyes is Ghost Rider these days...
     
  9. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

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    Thor's currently a woman these days and I'm sure that Chris Hemsworth is playing Thor in the next movie.
    ;)

    Like you, Ghost Rider has never been a character I've followed closely, (in fact I think I've read more of him in The Champions than his solo adventures) but I thought I read that the Robbie Reyes book ended (dare I say cancelled?) and Robbie
    got the beatdown from Johnny Blaze
    .
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    But Thor Thor is still around, and it looks like he'll be back on the hammer soon. That is, his unworthiness was always intended to be temporary, much like Steve Rogers' death with Bucky replacing him, and (we assume) Wolverine's death with X-23 replacing him. But the new Ghost Rider was/is intended to be the new Ghost Rider (although Johnny Blaze is still around).
     
  11. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

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    That's Mr. Odinson, to you.
     
  12. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

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    I watched it at 5:30 in the morning. I missed it. Big deal.
     
  13. Ereth

    Ereth Unemployed Bum

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    I would imagine a couple of reasons. One, animating the car, instead of the guy on the motorcycle is much, much, easier (and thus, less expensive). Two, it leaves the movies free to do Johnny Blaze (or, possibly, it leaves the licensing for Johnny Blaze to not have to be untangled).

    I suspect that we couldn't have the budget for CGI Johnny Blaze. Animating a human and making it look realistic, even if it has a burning skull, is way more processor intensive than animating a Charger with tinted windows so you can't see inside.
     
  14. Gerryex

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    Thanks for the video as it helped quite a bit.

    Gerry
     
  15. wprager

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    For some reason the first episode didn't record (I think I may have been recording it off the CTV feed and CTV dropped it this season). Didn't see it on-demand, either. Is it worth the risk for me to use "magic" (Disney is very strict on the use of "magic") or is it OK to just skip it and start with E02?
     
  16. DancnDude

    DancnDude Thrice as nice TCF Club

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    It's available for free on abc.com, though if you're not in the US you might have to download something that will spoof your location but I don't think that's very hard to do.
     
  17. trainman

    trainman Nice to see you

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    I kept waiting for the admission that her primary function is "sex robot." Especially now that the show is on at 10:00 instead of 9:00.
     
  18. JYoung

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    Historically, animating realistic looking fire onto live action actors has been very expensive.

    Back in the mid to late 70's, Marvel licensed several of their characters for development into TV shows.

    We got The Amazing Spider-Man (with Nicholas Hammond), The Incredible Hulk, and a Dr. Strange pilot movie out of that batch.
    (Not sure if Thor and Daredevil were included in this batch or were a different deal for the later Incredible Hulk movies.)

    Other characters that were licensed at that time were Namor and the Human Torch.
    I remember reading an interview with the producer of the proposed Torch show and he was saying that it was very expensive effects-wise to do a flaming human but they just might have a way to make it cheaper.
    (However, the pilot never got greenlit.)

    Obviously today, CGI brings down the cost but I'd think that fire motion takes a lot of (processor) time and money to do right, a lot like water motion.

    Which is why we probably why wouldn't see characters like Jim Hammond and Thomas Raymond on AOS.
    Or even Angelica Jones.
    (Assuming no rights issues with any of them.)
     
  19. wprager

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    I just found that it's available on the CTV.ca website (as long as I login with my Rogers Cable account).

    Weird, I did not see it in the guide on the CTV channel (and I suspect my recording was on that channel last year, which is why it didn't record the first episode).
     
  20. LoadStar

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    I'm just getting caught up with SHIELD. I was really behind for a while.

    This episode was a little weird for me. It was sort of all over the place.

    To me, it felt like the producers were told after last season's finale that they had to include Ghost Rider this season in a prominent role, then were left to figure out how to wedge him into whatever plans they already had for the show.
     
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