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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by GaryD9, Jun 11, 2018.
That's not how a classic flounce works.
Yet you obviously do. You replied yet again that shows you caring.
You decided to announce to a community. To assume there would be no discussion is foolish. To assume no one would disagree with you is foolish. You could have sent a message to Ted rather than make it public. Once you made it public, you opened the discussion. To insist on anything else is basically saying your opinion in a public forum is the only one that matters.
That's fair. Of course, I think it's also reasonable that people don't call me a liar when I mention a bug (or lack of reasonable functionality.) To justify calling me a liar by discovering a previously unknown work-around is still wrong.
For the person asking for some kind of proof that I canceled service on a DVR... I just got off the phone with TiVo to cancel that DVR (it can't be done online) and they told me that the service won't terminate until the end of the billing period. Until then, nothing shows on the website other than the support ticket:
For the people asking about comparing the X1 to TiVo... I've only had it for a couple hours, so this is certainly only "first impressions." When I first got the thing booted up, I thought I had made some mistake and had booted up the tivo bolt with hydra. I think I now know what TiVo used as a model for their "new experience": The X1 interface and TiVo's "new experience" are very similar. Horiz. navigation, grid guide, etc.
As expected, no wishlists on the cable DVR, and no suggestions (but they're nearly useless on TiVo's new experience now anyway.) As well, the comcast DVR is only 500GB (same as the base TiVo BOLT VOX.) Some minor advantages to the X1 DVR are that it configures itself based on your cable subscription (so you don't have to manually go through adding/removing channels) and if you have the same channel in both SD and HD formats, it'll automatically tune to the HD version. (For example, HBO-HD is 300 and HBO-SD is 301. If I change to channel 301, it'll automatically go to 300 instead.) The "voice" commands on the X1 seem to work better than the VOX. The X1 DVR doesn't seem to have any "skip forward" (30 second skip) functionality or commercial skip.
I'm sure I'll discover more differences as I use it.
X1 is pure garbage compared to the TiVo with Hydra.
Please keep reporting on your experience. I find it interesting although, since I'm on Spectrum, the X1 would not be available to me anyway.
I've always hated suggestions but no 30 sec or commercial skip would be a deal breaker for me lol
Gosh! This forum has some toxic personalities. Why can't people be more supportive of their peers?
To the haters and disrespectors out there in TivoCommunity Land: The reason the some people are "in your lives" at this moment on this forum is due to the circumstance that they too are supporting the Rovi corporation financially by embracing Tivo product. Just like you. What reason do you have not to be kind?
I believe if Rovi losses a sufficient number of your peers (their customers) then the company's future may be at risk. And if that leads to a darker future for the Tivo product then it could affect your experience with the product, too.
Also, the sentiment of a monthly subscriber could be different than that of a lifetime subscriber who is not shelling out bucks every month.
If I paid monthly and was affected by the issues released by their engineering department then I would not feel very motivated to support an effort that is consistently disappointing me as a customer; and an engineering effort that is generally not going in the right direction with regard to the Hydra platform.
Exactly how does replying to you mean that I care about what the OP does?
You such a wonderful person. Thank you for posting this. It's such an eye opener.
Do you really think people who post nonsense titles like 'TiVo is dead' 'the update that killed TiVo' 'I'm ditching TiVo' are interested in a thoughtful dialog on the various pros/cons of the product?
The X1 has cloud storage in my area which takes it to over 1TB of storage. But I can't stand using it when I visit my parents. It would need to be a last resort option for me to have one in my home.
Commercial Skip alone on the TiVo makes it a much greater box. Not to mention the numerous other features that TiVos have.
So if we call out stupid posts then we are contributing to the demise of the company and thus hurting ourselves? Quite a stretch of logic if you ask me.
There's a difference to "calling out stupid posts" and "call out anyone who doesn't believe EXACTLY what I (or whoever is posting) do."
As for contributing to a demise, I don't think that anyone is suggesting that a single person such as myself dropping a single TiVo subscription is going to really matter much to TiVo's bottom line. The suggestion is that a single person might be representative of a larger group and that when TiVo continues to make decisions that alienate paying subscribers, there can be impact.
Keep in mind, also, that TiVo isn't the explosive product that it used to be. This isn't the fault of Rovi, but just the simple fact that DVRs are common items now. In 2002, TiVo offered something that was unique and special in many different ways. In 2018, time shifting is common, DVR's are common, and boxes that include streaming apps are common. While TiVo does still offer some unique and special elements, they are less significant for most people.
For me, the "unique and special" is/was wishlists and suggestions. The "new experience" makes suggestions nearly useless for me. (This has been documented in many threads here.) For me, that leaves only wishlists as a reason to pay extra each month. Even assuming 100% accurate guide data, I don't use wishlists enough to justify 12.99/month. (I only mention guide data because I've seen wishlist recordings get missed due to inaccurate guide data.) While I certainly don't think everyone will agree with me, I think it'd also be a mistake to think that no one will.
Finally, while @TonyD79 is correct that posting here leaves it open for discussion, is there any particular reason it can't be a civil and polite discussion? I don't think I've attacked anyone, nor made any derogatory statements without supporting them. Even the statement about thumbs not working in lists is still 100% accurate even if I wasn't aware of a way to use thumbs without actually playing the show.
Or is civil discussion just asking too much from the members of TCF?
You can change the skip forward length for DVR & On Demand playback from 5 minutes to 30 seconds .
To do this:
- While pointing the remote towards the box, press the EXIT button 3 times
- Then type in 0030
In theory, changing the '0030' to a different time setting is done in seconds. For instance, 45 seconds would be '0045', 5 minutes would be '0300', 2 minutes would be '0120'.
The concept of the wishlist is awesome.
No one else has it except for the old Dish 622 and 722 boxes on which they call it Dish Pass. Because TiVo sued them in 2010 &&won, it's not in their new Hopper DVR.
I thought X1 cost $10 a TV. Is it a promo to get it free?
For the past several years, it's been included/free in my "triple play" package. Up until a few days ago, I'd just get them to substitute a cablecard for the the DVR. Perhaps only be the bundle packages that include it? Not sure.
Yep, we have one and it's free with our bundle.