Advice on burning DVDs

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by omelet1978, Mar 7, 2006.

  1. mfrns0123

    mfrns0123 New Member

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    Greg, under Nero Start Smart Extras, use the smart people mode, Select Nero Product setup, from there you can do updates.

    I used this the other day and it also forced me to uninstall, after that update I could no longer access Nero Product setup. I had to do a complete uninstall and install from the original. :mad: Good luck
     
  2. TivoJunkie43

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    First: Maybe I should have mentioned that I have the downloaded version of N7, not the hard copy.
    1. The Nero update tool can be found here: Start - All Programs - Nero7 ultra Addition - New Product Setup - Check the "Update My Nero products" tab. I just tried it myself and it seemed to want to download some updates, but then I chickened out. I wanna create a system restore point first.
    Question: Did you use the "N7 Clean Tools" before reinstalling? I didn't even know there were any until yesterday. Support - Tech Support - Tools -
    2. VR Version 2.1 is the trial version. I believe it supports Tivo, but i haven't installed it yet. The keeping the header is available in the beta version, but "The TopField (rec) and MCE (dvrms) output is only enabled for registered users. This restriction will remain until we have verified the quality of the output" Doesn't that mean I won't be able to use the output files? I also don't quite understand why keeping the "header info" is important. Don't i want the headed info changed to mpeg-2? I'm a VR noob :confused:
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  3. TivoJunkie43

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    This is precisely why I just aborted the update process, and that reminds me I have actually done 3 reinstalls of NV7 :mad:
     
  4. greg_burns

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    It's been awhile since I used the trial version. I believe it still outputs to mpg (but maybe only the first 30 minutes).

    If it doesn't recognize .tivo extension change to filetype to *.*. If it still doesn't work install the latest beta. (I believe it will still be trial until registered). In fact I would do that anyways if you haven't yet installed it.

    The header info is only important if you want use TivoCombeback (where you put your .mpg/.tivo files back onto your Tivo box). Without the header info it will not group or display all the program details.

    Some more info...
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=284726
     
  5. greg_burns

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    Well thanks guys for showing me where the update thing has disappeared to. I NEVER would of found there. Course, not sure how I found it were it used to be either. :rolleyes:

    Just tried it. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

    After uninstalling Nero (again!!!) it wanted to reboot too before downloading. Let it do that... the Nero downloader starts up after rebooting even before the Windows destkop. Says it is going to download 70MB+ file approx 10 minutes. But nothing is happening. (And I can't even use the computer, I have to wait for it to finish...). So I bailed and clicked cancel.

    Just went to their download site and downloading the 100MB+ manually installer.
    http://ww2.nero.com/nero7/enu/nero7-up.php

    It at least is progressing (and I can continue to do other things).
     
  6. mfrns0123

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    I thought I would give updating a try one more time, why I have no idea, Just spent the last 15 min uninstalling and re installing again!!!
     
  7. TivoJunkie43

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    Excuse me Sir, but I believe you may have forgotten to insert this little icon :mad:

    i'm so glad I aborted the N7 update process this morning :D But at least it connected and who knows, before too long it may actually work! :mad:
     
  8. greg_burns

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    :mad: :mad: :mad:

    How's that?

    You may not be so happy you aborted after all. I aborted (albeit after the reboot and during the download) and now the manual download won't install.

    I keep getting "Another installation is in progress. You must complete that installation before completing this one." Rebooting is not fixing it!

    Now I don't have any version of Nero installed. :rolleyes:
     
  9. TivoJunkie43

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    I must have aborted (chickened out) before, just before the download started. If you were asked to reboot my guess is that the download had already completed, not downloading anything, but rather uninstalling Nero7. :rolleyes: Buggy huh

    You're probably going to want to use Nero's Nero7 clean tool before doing another reinstall. Be sure you have your product key saved, because clean tools clean the registry as well. :eek:
     
  10. greg_burns

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    Actually it wanted to reboot because it installed the "download manager" thingie.

    I was just trying the clean tools (both the v7 and the general). It is not happening.

    I am about ready to run Ghost and restore my image from last week. This is a nightmare. There must a registry setting somewhere that is tripping this up, but I don't have the energy. Nero 6 ... I miss ya already.
     
  11. TivoJunkie43

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    Before doing anything too drastic I would suggest checking your registry "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ ahead \ Installation \ Families\Nero7\Info" and look for anything relating to Nero6. If so, run Nero6 cleantool as well. Also when cleantool is cleaning choose "yes" when asked if you'd also like to remove all file associations... or something to that affect.

    Check add and remove programs for the update manager install, and do a windows search for anything "Nero". Maybe something needs to be manually deleted? :eek:
     
  12. mfrns0123

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    This is what I did also Greg, Searched anything with Nero and deleted it, rebooted and did the install, everything worked again.
     
  13. greg_burns

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    Thanks guys. Deleting the Nero program files folder did the trick. Now I am reinstalling. I trust the latest version of Ghost even less than I do Nero 7. :p

    Give me Ghost 2003 and Nero 6 and I'll be happy. What is this crazy desire to have the latest of everything? [TimAllenVoice]ARGH-ARGH-ARGH[/TimAllenVoice]
     
  14. HDTiVo

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    Respectfully, why do you bother updating? What are you going to get in the new version that you need?
     
  15. greg_burns

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    It's a sickness. I'm going to meetings, so get off my back. :p

    Now where's that Vista CTP I just downloaded...
     
  16. HDTiVo

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    I know that sickness...I used to have it.

    I don't want to through this off track, but now that I have your attention, I am relapsing into illness myself by thinking about installing QT7 for Windows and going to QT7 Pro.

    Here is why: I have a bunch of .mov files I want to edit/merge and export to something WMP can play like AVI or ideally MPEG2 for my TiVoes. I figure QT7 Pro should be an easy way to work with the files. I don't need anything all that fancy.

    Here is my fear: The QT7 Player I just downloaded says it comes with iTunes6 software. I am deathly afraid of installing iTunes and having it take over my PC. I am also a little afraid of QT7 taking over things too, but iTunes scares the heck out of me.

    Am I nuts? If so, in which way?

    Thanks.
     
  17. greg_burns

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    What Apple doesn't want you to find...

    Download Standalone QuickTime Player
     
  18. HDTiVo

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  19. TivoJunkie43

    TivoJunkie43 New Member

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    LMAO Yeah I have it bad too just look at my user name :p

    I just Dled the newest version of Nero7 yesterday, but I just couldn't help - myself - had to check see if the nero updater bugs have been worked out, obviously not :mad: Nero must think of their customers as paying beta testers.

    I feel like the pied piper encouraging people to also run Nero7 update :rolleyes:

    Hey Greg, you were right about which version od VideoRedo to DL - newest beta version - and after playing around with it long enough to output a file, I found that nerovision is taking the same amount time to transcode the stream (during the burn process), about 2 hours on a 3 hour file recorded at high quality. Maybe i should record something in medium quality to see if that's what's taking so long, but I would expect the same results. Oh now that I think about it I'm sure I have some low quality recordings I could experiment with. Time to make some more coasters :rolleyes:

    Granted: VideoReDo is more responsive when editing out commercials, but I can't justify purchasing it for that reason alone, although i'm sure it's just a matter of time before I need it to play edited tivo files back to tivo. I still haven't been able to quite grasp the concept... is there additional equipment required for that? BTW I was just shopping at Costco, and the hard drive I've been eyeballing - Western Digital 400Gig SATA - has dropped to only $200 now. Yeah it's a sickness :rolleyes:
     
  20. greg_burns

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    From the expirimenting you can dramatically shorten transcode times if your original .mpg (or .tivo) file is already in a proper DVD format. Just so happens Basic & Medium are in such a format (352x480). High is 480x480). Best is too (except for us Dish Network guys - 540x480).

    "Official DVD aspect ratios are 352x240, 352x480, 704x480, or 720x480."

    Dan023 talked about in another thread exporting from VR as VOBs and using some other authoring software which elimantes the transcode altogther. Haven't gotten that far yet with my playing around.
     

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