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Add a digital clock to the Roamio (and mini?)

Discussion in 'TiVo Suggestion Avenue' started by ajfjc, Mar 8, 2015.

  1. emuman100

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    The reason why clocks are not included on these devices is because manufacturers are getting cheap. The consumer electronics industry has trained its customers that removal of a clock display is "modern design". The whole point is to make something look sleek and different and they can claim "modern design", when it's really a cost-saving measure. Not only are most of these crappy consumer devices lasting only a fraction of how long consumer electronics had lasted in the past 15 years, more features are being removed. So the result is a cheaply made consumer device that has a useful life of only a tiny fraction of what it used to be 15 years ago. (and an even lesser fraction of 25 to 30 years ago)

    So, it's not "modern design", it's capitalism.
     
  2. m.s

    m.s Active Member

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    Sure, just hit "info" on the remote. Clock-on-demand.
     
  3. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    No, the reason VCR's had a clock was so that scheduled recordings could be facilitated. It was a functional requirement and often too small to be used as an actual timekeeper in a room. And we all remember the jokes about the clock constantly flashing 12 because nobody could figure out how to set the damn thing.

    If there was a real consumer desire for a clock, believe me, Tivo and everyone else would build them into the design - It just would not be that expensive.
     
  4. Ilene

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    I just got a Bolt and I really am missing the clock in the upper corner. It also lets you know how much time you are into a show. I use it a lot. Guess I will just make the Select-Play-Select- 9 each time I start watching...
     
  5. emuman100

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    Tivo and most consumer devices have clocks. When Tivo dials up and boots up, the clock is set (look at the kernel messages) for the same reason VCRs have clocks. If a manufacturer can convince a consumer that "modern and sleek" is a $0.05 plastic front panel instead of a $0.27 front panel with display, they will do it. You don't need a display on a VCR to use it the clock function (some VCRs don't have displays, for the same reason Tivo doesn't) because it also could be set by the menu. It's because manufacturers are cheaping out and convincing the consumer that cheaping out is "modern and sleek".
     
  6. SullyND

    SullyND W: 21-17 TCF Club

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    The only "clocks" I have in my house are the oven and microwave. If I could get rid of them I would. If I need to know the time I look at my watch or phone. If I don't have them on me I ask Alexa. A clock on my TiVo would be wasted as it is behind a door.
     
  7. TonyD79

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    Well, the first VCRs required programming from the screen on the front which meant the clock. It was later in the life of dvrs that had options to program via the remote and on the tv screen. And I think even my last one required setting the clock from the box itself and not via the GUI.
     
  8. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Yes, TiVo monitors the time and even can display an on-screen clock. No nobody is arguing that.

    The original VCR's were not connected to the "cloud" and had to have a physical timekeeper to support functionality. thus a clock on the front of the device.

    Buy a damn clock, Jesus Christ, this isn't some major issue. TiVo, Apple TV, Roku et, all are not going to put a clock on the front because 1) they do not need it to support functionality, 2) there is a general desire to hide gear, not put it out in front, and 3) you can just go buy a simple clock to tell time. That is not the business they are in.
     
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  9. emuman100

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    Many modern cable boxes have displays on the front panel displaying the time. Clever marketing is the reason why people are trained by the industry that cheaping out is "modern and sleek". It's the reason why consumer electronics went from beautiful pieces of engineering to total crap.
     
  10. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    Wow. We have someone who thinks a digital clock is beautiful.
     
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  11. JoeKustra

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    It's funny. If you read this thread from the beginning (2015), it's virtually the same stuff repeated again and again. There should be a (nice) word for this pattern of behavior.
     
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  12. Eliza

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    I cannot believe there are so many replies, mostly repetitive, to this thread. I just started reading and couldn't stop. Thanks for the laughs. And jmo, I don't need a clock on the TiVo, we have a clock on the wall about 4 foot from the Tv. I also use info button to see time if I want to use my remote. Hope everyone is having a nice day.
     
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  13. Bsteenson

    Bsteenson TiVo is no BS

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    No. I want the clock displayed on the screen, as it also shows how far into the program you are so you can tell how much time is left.
     
  14. m.s

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    You're doing it wrong. Rarely is the time left in a show related to wall time, because with a TiVo you can record shows to play back anytime and even pause live TV!

    Of course you could just, you know, buy a clock or a watch.
     
  15. ajwees41

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    so how would that work if your watching a recorded show?

    that's not a clock, but if you press info or play it should show how far you are in the program.
     
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  16. Bsteenson

    Bsteenson TiVo is no BS

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  17. Bsteenson

    Bsteenson TiVo is no BS

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    This is a feature that has existed almost since the beginning of TiVo -- and still exists now. You turn it on by pressing select-play-select-9-select while watching a recorded program. It shows two clocks in the upper right corner. The first is how many hours, minutes and seconds you are into the recording you are watching. The second is the time of day. My complaint is that before this latest OS update, once you turned it on it stayed on until a restart. Now you have to turn it on again for every new recorded show that you watch.
     
  18. caughey

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    "Alexa, what time is it?"

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    VCRs had front panel clocks. Later, some cable boxes had front panel clocks. I've never had a receiver, turntable, cassette player, CD player, DVD player, Blu-Ray player, game console, or TV with a front panel clock. Only a few even had an internal clock. TiVo has never had a front panel clock, except for Series3. If a clock was a vital part of the living room A/V experience for 40 years, every TV would have one.
     
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