about alt epg

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by jonmon, Jun 25, 2011.

  1. Fred Smith

    Fred Smith Still learning

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    Pendant mode on: :)

    Some were fitted with both a 30GB and a 15GB drive.
     
  2. sjp

    sjp Active Member

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    with the added bonus of a "free" 2nd HDD bracket.

    i still use the platters of my first pair of drives as coasters on my desk :)
     
  3. CarlWalters

    CarlWalters Yo Ho TiVo!

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    I hope it's a gold pendant :)
     
  4. alek

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    Mine says it has data till 11-7

    Alek
     
  5. Pete77

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    They do that with dummy data to stop you getting messages about the Tivo having not been able to make a recent call. However in reality if you check any channel there is only one week of data in the AltEPG at the present time. They hope to be able to extend the length of the EPG data at a later stage when they are at least out of Alpha test and have moved on to Beta test.

    Regarding replacement hard drives I would say preparing your own hard drive is quite hard work unless you have a lot of IT skills and an old desktop or things like a USB to SATA adapter kicking around anyway. However fitting a prepared replacement hard drive from Tivocentral or Tivoland isn't usually at all difficult as long as you can remove three torque screws and get the lid off a Tivo although its wise to have turned it off 24 hours beforehand to avoid any residual charge in the PSU inside the box. The postage costs and hassle of sending a Tivo out and back to me are significantly more hassle than taking the lid off a Tivo and fitting a pre-prepared drive myself.

    Tivoland is the older upgrade firm of the two but had been taking rather a low profile of late until Tivo axed the EPG and Dave of TivoLand has now become the leading light in coordinating the AltEPG project (in part because he has been privy to condidential information from Tivo Inc about the firmness of their plans to axe the service and precisely when it was going to happen and in part because he also appear to have a stockpile somewhere of S1 Tivos that is now much more valuable than it was a few months ago). I am sure that either firm would provide you with a good replacement drive although I suspect that one from Tivocentral may come with more pre-installed in the way of the latest hacks for Tivoweb etc. This is mainly because Mike is something of a leading light in the Tivoweb hacks and module development department.
     
  6. drgeoff

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  7. jonmon

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    thanks for all the info
    1) Could anyone tell me if this drive is less than 40 gb if it only records 40 hours of video on the lowest quality, basic? Guessing that it is.
    2) Also is there another dial up number to use, I used 01274560760 but its busy most of the time. Is there another number I can use? do I just do another guided setup but with a new number if there is another one?
    Thanks
     
  8. Pete77

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    That is how much a standard 40Gb Tivo can record. ie. 40 hours at Basic and around 11 at Best. Therefore this appears to be a standard unmodified Tivo. Remember large hard drives were much more expensive in early 2000 when the UK Tivo first went in to production.

    Yes there is now 0845 0800300 which came in to operation a few days ago and has been set up by a different ISP to the original 01274 number from EXA Networks. This number has 60 lines on it (compared to one on the 01274 number) so has lines free available pretty much all the time 24/7 since business from traditional dialup internet customers is now in steep and terminal decline.
     
  9. jonmon

    jonmon New Member

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    Thanks Pete77:D
    I can put up with a small hard drive until my other TiVo is upgraded in the future. When that happens I will put the dial up TiVo with the TV in bedroom. In some ways I would like to keep this TiVo original as it is in pritty good condition. Do you think though that they will stop doing the alt epg for the dial up TiVo?
    Also can I make sure I got this write in that I just do another guided setup, in the same way as I did the other number but with the new phone number?
    thanks:)
     
  10. Pete77

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    I think AltEPG by dialup will be around as long as there is an AltEPG (i.e. several more years perhaps 10 or more) as the only issue was how a lot of phone lines could be provided for it. The phone lines are now there without further investment being needed subject to people not having an issue about the phone call costs.

    Hopefully the AltEPG may find a way to configure dialup Tivos to only call in for data once a week when it is up to say two weeks data as this would keep the cost of the calls down. Unfortunately calls to known data numbers whether 0845 or 01/02 usually get blacklisted by phone companies as not being part of their inclusive calls allowance.

    Yes just put the 0845 0800300 number in to Set Dial Prefix under Phone Dialling Options and then make a test call. After you get a successful test call result you can then do Guided Setup. Its best to clear thumbs and program data as they do not carry over to the AltEPG but there is no need to do Clear and Delete Everything that would also delete all your recordings.

    The only issue before was with the previous AltEPG phone number being engaged for long periods of time. The new AltEPG 08450800300 number does not suffer with this problem.
     
  11. TCM2007

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    Ultra pedant - the 30+15s were still configured to only use 40, not 45.
     
  12. Pete77

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    I can confirm this was the case as my Tivo was originally fitted with a 30Gb + 15Gb drive yet still only had 40 hours of recording capacity at Basic as confirmed in System Information.
     
  13. Fred Smith

    Fred Smith Still learning

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    Well I never realised that, but in my defence my second TiVo purchased of a well known auction site with the two HDD's was bought second hand and as they were nearly ten years old I had them swapped out for the 500GB SATA that was in my un-subbed pretty quickly.

    PS Yes it may have been gold. :D

    PPS The second HDD bracket, why did I not think to post that? :)
     

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