I didn't mean to attack you and I'm sorry if it came off that way. I just don't agree with such a harsh conclusion as it was obvious to me they meant that Tivo was transformative. Did VCR's allow for time shifting? Sure. Okay. They did. I taped stuff too but I thought it was a PITA. To me it was every bit as painful as re-winding my portable cassette tape player. Could I take it on the road with me? Sure, I could. Would it occasionally eat my tapes - yup, did that too. Did Apple invent the MP3 player? No. But they sure made it ubiquitous and changed the way we consume, listen, travel with, etc. music. But hey...if you got some hate over them "lying" to exaggerate the impact they had in DVRs, timeshifting, etc., so be it. I've got no dogs in this hunt so no big deal.