9.1 Wishlist bug?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TerpBE, Oct 2, 2007.

  1. Oct 2, 2007 #1 of 18

    TerpBE Go Terps!

    Jan 23, 2003
    Philly 'burbs


    I think I may have found a bug regarding the wishlist in 9.1 (I'm using an S3, btw)

    Let's say I want a list of all HD movies from 2006, and set up a wishlist for:

    2006 * HD:Movies​
    It gives me a list of all movies with "2006" in the description. Great!

    But now let's say I want a list of all HD movies from 2005 or 2006. I set up a wishlist for:

    (2006) * (2005) * HD:Movies​
    But with this wishlist, I get "No Programs were found."

    Either the wishlist that I set up is wrong, or there's a bug in Tivo's logic. My wishlist seems to be consistent with the example on tivo.com, which says:

    So it seems that parentheses essentially function as a boolean OR.

    I tried several different variations, but all of the following gave me zero matches:

    (2006) * (2005) * HD:Movies​
    2006 * 2005 * HD:Movies​
    (2006) * HD:Movies​
    (2006) * (2005) * 200* * HD:Movies​
    So it looks like a bug to me. Can anybody else try replicate the problem, or point out if I'm overlooking something?
  2. Oct 3, 2007 #2 of 18

    OC7 Member

    Nov 17, 2006
    Chandler, AZ
    I tried this search on my S3 and got the same result you did. I agree that it's a bug. I have a different search with two keywords (each in parentheses - all letters, no numbers) combined with a category and it works correctly. Maybe using one or both keywords with numeric values is confusing it.
  3. Oct 3, 2007 #3 of 18

    Fraser+Dief New Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Otttawa, Canada
    Did you try (2006 * 2005) * HD:Movies

  4. Oct 3, 2007 #4 of 18

    TerpBE Go Terps!

    Jan 23, 2003
    Philly 'burbs
    I just tried that - still no luck. (The * inside the parentheses is an asterisk, and the one outside is a dot, since that's the only way you can do this search)

    I also tried:

    (*006) * (*005) * HD:Movies
    (2006*) * (2005*) * HD:Movies
    and they didn't work either.

    My suspicion is that it's running into a problem because in the description, the dates actually show up in parentheses. When you try to "boolean OR" the search terms, Tivo uses parentheses to distinguish that. My guess is that it's running into an issue trying to differentiate between:

    (x) * (y) - OR funtion


    "(x)" * "(y)" - AND function, with parentheses as part of the search term
  5. Oct 3, 2007 #5 of 18

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

    Jan 2, 2004


    did you try it without the HD qualifier?

    and did you try a search on jsut HD movies with no year qualifier?

    I think this might be a identify HD movies bug instead
  6. Oct 3, 2007 #6 of 18

    TerpBE Go Terps!

    Jan 23, 2003
    Philly 'burbs
    I haven't tried that - I'll try it when I get home. I don't think it's an issue with "HD:Movies", though, because "2006 * HD:Movies" works fine.
  7. Oct 3, 2007 #7 of 18

    martinp13 Roller coaster addict :)

    Mar 19, 2001
    Fort Worth, TX
    The * can't be both AND and OR. If "2006 * HD:Movies" finds only 2006 HD movies, then "2005 * 2006 * HD:Movies" will find only HD movies with both 2005 -and- 2006.

    I think the "vanilla and/or chocolate" description is wrong.

    EDIT: Nevermind... I finally found the Wishlist explanation, and the parens indicate an (optional) keyword. So (choc) * (van) * -straw should return chocolate and/or vanilla, but no strawberry. So I'm not sure why yours isn't working.
  8. Oct 3, 2007 #8 of 18

    AlphaDelta Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    Ann Arbor, MI
    What is the point of an optional keyword? The expression will always evaluate to be TRUE.
  9. Oct 3, 2007 #9 of 18

    fredct Member

    Nov 15, 2004
    I think 'optional' keyword means 'boolean OR'
  10. TerpBE

    TerpBE Go Terps!

    Jan 23, 2003
    Philly 'burbs
    Correct. If all keywords are "optional" it treats it as "any one of these"...except, of course, for the situation in my initial post.
  11. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

    Jan 9, 2003
    DC Metro Area
    This seems like a pretty obvious bug in 9.1, so I assume Tivo will fix it in the next version of their software.
  12. TiVoPony

    TiVoPony New Member

    May 11, 2002
    We're aware of this. I believe you'll find that the bug is that the field in the metadata that contains the year isn't being searched (you probably saw some results from the first test as some programs happen to list the year somewhere in the description or title as well).

    Unfortunately it could not be addressed in this release.

  13. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2001
    Odd. In my (limited) experience searching for years did work for movies. But of course not for TV shows. Did searching for movie years stop working in 9.1?
  14. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    I hope some day the keyword Blackout can be searched. This is stored in the metadata somewhere as well but there's no way to catch it in a wishlist search. This would make recording sports that come on multiple channels so much easier.
  15. TerpBE

    TerpBE Go Terps!

    Jan 23, 2003
    Philly 'burbs
    Actually, no. The "2006 * HD:Movies" gave me over 200 results, and the matches did not have "2006" in the description at all - only in the year.

    It only seems to have a problem when the year is set to "optional". (Have the developers check the parentheses).

    Thanks for confirming that you're aware of this issue, and for all the help you provide on here, Pony.
  16. Johncv

    Johncv Well-Known Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Chula Vista, CA
    I found another bug. It in the actor search, can someone test this on another TiVo. I have the TiVoHD. The actor search I have is for Michael C. Hall.

    The Wishlist setup for the actor is Hall, Michael C.

    This setup find nothing, not even the current “Dexter” on CBS. I check the program info on “Dexter” and the actor name is there, so I am guessing that when the search is made on the name it not picking up the period in the middle initial. C.

    This work find on the Serie2 TiVo.

    Is this a bug?
  17. etz

    etz New Member

    Sep 8, 2006
    what I hate is doing a an actor wishlist for STING. He's in the list of actors just fine, but when you look at the output of the wishlist, you get lots of programs that have the word sting anywhere in the description or title.

    For example you get episodes of 'Cops' because they have some sort of drug sting and whatnot. What's the point of specifying that it's and ACTOR wishlist, when it disregards that and looks at any and all text.
  18. reneg

    reneg Well-Known Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    /sigh, It looks like this bug was not able to be addressed in the 9.3 release either.

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