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8TB Premiere

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by jmbach, Apr 9, 2017.

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  1. ms602

    ms602 New Member

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    What I'm suggesting is that you copy all your content off the old drive to computer, then go through Ross Walker's guide to setup a brand new blank drive from scratch, then transfer all your content and settings from the computer to the new drive. Maybe someone can chime in here on what this Windows transfer program is.. Because I strictly use KMTTG myself..

    Someone senior -- What's the program that allows 2 way transfer of content?
     
  2. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    PyTivo / Desktop, and the now unsupported Tivo Desktop.
     
  3. gary80920

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    Happy New Year everyone!

    I have stock Premiere XL4 (TCD758250) with the 2tB hard drive. I'm looking to upgrade the hard drive to something larger perhaps 6 or 8tB.

    Are these instructions applicable? Or, do I need to look elsewhere.

    Thanks,
    Gary
     
  4. jmbach

    jmbach der Neuerer

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    These will work. The 6TB would be less steps and a slightly different mfsadd command. The 6 TB Premiere thread will have that info.

    Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk
     
  5. ms602

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    Gary, you have the right forum listing if you want to format an 8TB drive. Just go to the very first post in this thread for the step by step instructions on drive preparation.
     
  6. Sparky1234

    Sparky1234 Totally

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    Post back results. Considering an 8TB upgrade too.
     
  7. gary80920

    gary80920 New Member

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    Hi,

    I will be upgrading to a 6tB drive as the cost for an 8tB drive is not worth it.

    Regards!
     
  8. DocNo

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    bensbargains.net has routine alerts for Best Buy with WD 8TB Easystores for under $200. If you "shuck" the hard drive from the enclosure they turn out to be Red drives. Way overkill for Tivo. The next time they come up (seems to be every 3-4 weeks, just missed the last window) I'm picking another one up and the 6TB Seagate SMR piece of crap is coming out of my Bolt an I'll just set the WD Red on the shelf next to the Bolt. Power it with it's own 12v power supply and run a SATA cable from the bolt over to the WD Red. I don't care if the drive is not in case - the bolt is in a cabinet out of site. And even it wasn't it still wouldn't be the geekiest thing in my AV center :)
     
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  10. ms602

    ms602 New Member

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    I bought one of the 8TB Western Digital My Book drives from Amazon. They were on sale for $155 with free shipping when I checked out 3 days ago, for one with a slightly damaged outer box, which is certainly a lot cheaper than Western Digital sells a red bare drive.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LQQHLGC/

    I have the drive removed from external case, and am ready to proceed with setup, but I need a little advice and guidance. So here are the details..

    I have the 320GB TiVo Premiere DVR (TCD746320) and I previously replaced the 320GB drive with a 1TB Western Digital Green drive. Reason I did that is because the original 320GB drive failed, and was completely unresponsive. I got advice from ggieseke on how to setup a new drive using a virtual drive image (VHD format) and the DvrBars software. I no longer have the original 320GB drive, and even if I did, because of whatever mechanical malfunction it had, it wouldn't be useful. So what I need to do is setup this new 8TB Western Digital drive from a VHD image rather than copy the 1TB drive. I assume this would be preferred, since the 1TB drive was altered from original TiVo configuration anyway during the setup.

    Help! Need a clean TCD746320 image.
    Dvr Backup And Restore Software for Windows (DvrBARS)

    So this is my question -- What are the steps to setup an 8TB drive for use on the Premiere without doing a drive-to-drive copy, but using a VHD image (TCD746320.vhd) instead?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  11. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    I just got a new 746320 image thanks to TCF member Allen King that's already running 20.7.4.RC42, so you could (hopefully) copy that image and expand it to 4TB directly with MFSTools 3.2 and a virtual machine using something like VMware or VirtualBox. Expanding that to 8TB will probably take advice from @jmbach. Otherwise you will need an intermediate drive of at least 320GB.

    You would be the first person to test this image and I need a few more hours to complete the upload, so let me know how it goes if you decide to go down that road.
     
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  12. jmbach

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    Well if that 1TB image is fully functional and updated, there is no reason to use one of ggieseke's images. Just follow the 8TB instructions and you get to keep your recordings.

    Otherwise, get ggieseke's newest image he offered you. Restore it to that 1 TB since you are not going to to keep the recordings anyway. You might need to let it boot in your TiVo first before MFSTools can see and use it. You can try without booting it if you like. Just follow the 8TB instructions once that image is on a hard drive.

    The easiest way to avoid doing a drive to drive copy is using something like VMware or VirtualBox to mount the ISO of MFSTools, the VHD from ggieseke, and the physical hard drive you want the image on. From there you can just flow the 8TB instructions.

    Again the only issue is that sometimes MFSTools does not fully recognize an image that has not been married to a TiVo. In that case you have to do that first before you can follow the 8TB instructions.
     
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  13. ms602

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    Well I do have a spare 320GB drive. I could restore ggieseke's image to a 320GB drive, then go through the 8TB copy procedure. That would effectively appear to be starting from a genuine TiVo hard drive. I am just hesitant to copy the 1TB drive over because I was advised by ggieseke that the partitions were altered from what TiVo intended in order to expand the storage capacity from 320GB to 1TB. I just want to make sure this works and that it results in stability. The first time I prepped the 1TB drive (like a year ago) I had all sorts of glitches happening afterward. I was talking to TiVo tech support after that, and they told me the DVR software indicated that an external drive was attached when there was not. In order to resolve the rough operation, I completely zeroed the 1TB drive and performed the operation a second time, of course TiVo customer support offered no guidance and actually ridiculed me for having changed out the hard drive myself. Reformatting with zeros and doing it over seemed to work, the DVR has worked 100% reliably since then, but I know these steps ya'll recommend are hacks, and may not perfectly duplicate what the TiVo OS expects. Anyway, I'll try that -- writing the image to a 320GB drive then copying and expanding to 8TB. I'll let ya know if there are any hangups, but I don't see why that wouldn't work without problem. Thanks for the guidance as always!
     
  14. jmbach

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    MFSTools can take a drive that has been previously expanded by JMFS and when it copies (and expands) it will essentially convert it to a standard TiVo layout. So use your 1TB.
     
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