8K TV's at CES, waiting for the "does TiVo support 8K" posts!

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  1. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    For me, HD is a big improvement for watching sports and I notice the difference if I go back to SD. Maybe 4K will improve sports even further. For movies and TV shows, it doesn't really matter to me if I watch in SD or HD.

    I definitely would not replace a working HD TV with a 4K TV.
     
  2. Dan203

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    4K will improve sports significantly because currently most sports are only broadcast at 720p. Since current HD broadcasting is limited to either 720p/60 or 1080i/30 most sports channels, like ESPN, choose 720p/60 because the motion (especially long horizontal pans) looks better at 60fps progressive then in interlaced. 4K does not have interlaced so all broadcasts will be 60fps progressive.

    Everything else you'd be hard pressed to notice a difference. And if you do it will likely be negative, like the "soap opera" effect you get when you turn on the 240Hz feature on most modern TVs. There is a point where high resolutions and frame rates actually break the fantasy of TV/movies. One of the recent Hobbit movies was actually shot at 48fps and shown at that rate in some theaters. Most of the people that saw it that way said it looked "fake". The extra frame rate allowed them to notice the props and CGI more clearly ruining the illusion.
     
  3. TonyD79

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    Nope.
     
  4. CharlesH

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    Every imaging enhancement has given movie/TV producers grief. When talkies were introduced, many silent actors couldn't deal with it and dropped out of the industry. Adding color meant that the props, costumes, and such had to be properly colored. (An amusing note on this: I read somewhere that the old "Car 54: Where are you?" TV show painted their police cars some oddball color that looked "police black" on TV, but were clearly not real police cars to any in the public who stumbled across filming of the show.) When TV shows moved to HD, the old props would no longer work (I once saw some of the painted plywood Daleks that my PBS station was showing for a Doctor Who promotion. Also had occasion to see some of the props from the original StarTrek.)

    The problems introduced by 4K production just raises the bar on prop/CGI technology.
     
  5. ej42137

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    The purity of gold (element 79) in jewelry is expressed in "karats", with 24 karats being pure gold, which is sometimes abbreviated as 24k. "gold standard" = "24k"?
     
  6. TonyD79

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    I don't need it explained. I was focused on the technical end at the time and just missed the joke.
     
  7. jim1971

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    Don't get carried away. 8k is only intermediate technology. I have it on good authority (hint: leaks from an influential source) that 3D solid holographic is coming in 2018. It will be able to emulate 480i on up with high precision as 3D solid holographic. Pricing for 800 cubic foot projector (10x10x8 - small room spaces) will start at $795. Really cool!! This means you could not just watch I Love Lucy. You could be in the same room with the entire family and Fred & Ethyl.
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Only SD? I'm out! :thumbsdown:
     
  9. atmuscarella

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  10. ej42137

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    I guess you also missed the fact that the point of my "explanation" was to mock your focusing on the technical details and missing the joke.

    And more mocking! This is no longer a safe environment for the humor-impaired!
     
  11. zalusky

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    How's this all Gonna work on our phones!
     
  12. jonw747

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    It's interesting that with VR technology (like Gear VR and Google Paper) there's demand for even higher resolution and refresh rates on phones.

    Not only are you splitting the phone's resolution in 1/2 to supply the left and right eye, but the screen is also being magnified by the lenses to create the illusion of watching a big screen.

    One thing that doesn't get enough attention is pixel spacing. When you zoom in on a phone with a 2K screen, you can see the blank space between the pixels (called the screen door effect). So there is call for 4K on phones, but people won't be happy unless it also eliminates the SDE.
     
  13. tomhorsley

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    Phone and TV screens will all be obsolete when the little gadgets sitting on your glasses or built into your contact lenses use direct retinal projection to provide the max resolution your eye can handle :).
     
  14. Dan203

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    By that point TV as we know it will be obsolete. It'll be more like that VR world on Caprica.
     
  15. RGM1138

    RGM1138 I wanna Rock

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    I'm waiting for the introduction of a virtual holo imagery device where you place a headset with transmitter bio electrodes, (biodes) onto your head and the signal is beamed directly into the brain. You become part of the experience and no pesky screens needed.

    CES 2018, maybe?


    :)
     
  16. mpinegar

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    What about a pair of VR Glasses that work with the Bolt in 4K?
    That's what I'm dreaming about!
     

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