802.11g Adapters Added to Compatible Adapters List

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by TiVoBill, Feb 17, 2005.

  1. err

    err New Member

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    Thank you TivoBill,

    Your post made me finally purchase Tivo DVR2.
    I called your sales / tech support but none have any ideas about 802.11G & USB 2.0 & WPA.

    After reading your post, I bought the following:

    Tivo DVD2 40 hrs from Dell - $179 - rebate
    Netgear WG111 from CompUSA - $9.99 after rebate + tax
    Linksys USB200M (to initialize Tivo at first & download 7.1) - free after refund to compusa :p
    (2) maxtor 250 GB Drive - $99 each at compusa.

    Can't wait to get my tivo from Dell.

    Thanks, I hope this will be good
     
  2. e-treesh

    e-treesh New Member

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    I hope you are happy with your TiVo from Dell. Personally, I would not buy from anyone but Best Buy.
    I bought my first 14 hour TiVo from Best Buy the first week they hit the shelves for $500. Less than a year later when the phone modem failed I brought it back under Best Buy's four year extended warranty. I exchanged it for a 30 hour unit and because the price had come down so much, they gave me a $100 credit.
    The next time I had a problem there had been no significate changes so I just got a new 30 hour unit off the shelf.
    Last year when the third unit failed, actually it was just the record LED that failed, I swapped it for a new 80 hour Series 2 unit and received a $50 rebate from TiVo. And since my four years were almost up, I also renewed my extended warranty.
    I am hoping this unit will not fail until TiVo comes out with a High Definiton Stand Alone unit. But if it breaks before then I can always upgrade to a TiVo with a built in DVD burner.
     
  3. srp2004

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    Is the D-Link DWL-G120 version B1 supported? I bought this adapter last weekend before the compatable adapters page was updated to indicate hardware version. I haven't installed it yet, so I don't know first hand. Just deciding if I should return it.
     
  4. TiVoBill

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    Some forum users reported problems with that adapter (slowness in interface, rebooting), so we we updated the compatible adapter list. A coupe of other people have said it worked for them, but not sure I would chance it.
     
  5. briguymaine

    briguymaine Visual Assault Cmdr.

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    I picked up the Netgear G adapter for $9.99 after rebate and open box discount, I get the best deals at Best Buy! It seems to get 10 - 20% better reception than my old USB 802.11b (I think it is a Linksys?) I haven't tried tranferring with MRV yet but hopefully it will be at least a little faster.

    I'm happy so far, after rebates, deals, and selling my old adapter on ebay, this new one is free! Sweet...
     
  6. NotSmith46

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    Sheez. After seeing all the fun you folks have been having with different versions of these 802.11g adapters, I foolishly thought that I could avoid some of that pain by buying an adapter from the TiVo store directly. What a dope I am. Today, my express shipped D-Link DWL-G120 "B1" adapter arrived, even though TiVo says to only use the "B2". Guess they're trying to unload all this incompatible stock, and I fell for it. Now I have to call the TiVo Store and arrange to ship it back, and I STILL won't have the right adapter. Off to BestBuy. Leave me a couple, will ya?

    Greg
     
  7. fredm54

    fredm54 New Member

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    Hi, I just joined and this is my first post! I bought my first Tivo about 3 weeks ago, in fact it was Super Bowl Sunday! I recently setup my Tivo for TivoToGo. Got the 7.1a update, bought a D-Link DWL-G120 (B1 version) My home network was just an 802.11b and I got transfer speeds of about 120-130 kBs using IE6 and downloading the TIVO files. Using the Tivo Desktop a 740 MB file took about 85 minutes!
    So I went out today and bought a new router and upgraded everything to 802.11G. Guess what??? I'm getting exactly the same speed!!!

    So, I decided to test something, my kid's computer is uptairs and is about twice as far away as the Tivo is to my router. My kid's pc has a new 802.11g pci card. I shared one of her folders with large cd image files and dragged and dropped a 750 MB file from her computer to my desktop.....that took 7 minutes!!! That's more than a 10 fold increase!!!

    What the heck is going on? If I did my math right , at half the USB 1 rate (6 mbs) that file should take less than 17 minutes. To put it in even better perspective, it's 1/10 the max rate of USB 1.1

    Does TIVO need any beta testers? I'll be glad to volunteer to get this fixed!

    Oh, I'm going to try to exchange my DWL-G120 B1 for a B2 version as soon as I can, I hope that helps!
     
  8. err

    err New Member

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    The only reason I bought from Dell was because I happen to have $90 coupon that I have been dying to use for 5 months now. Dell is also running the tivo 40 hrs at discounted $79.

    So after rebate and tax, I ended up getting the tivo for -$4. Not too bad.

    :)



     
  9. slines

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    Can anyone comment on Tivo's compatibility with a D-Link 624 router? Tivo Support says it won't talk to it and that the reason according to D-Link is that there is an issue of b and g compatibility. What gives?
    My adapter is 811.b Microsoft MN-510. Any solutions out there short of buying a new router?
     
  10. angel35

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  11. Scrappy

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    I was wondering if anybody had any luck using a peer-to-peer connection with the Netgear WG111 adapter.

    I have two series2 units (both have service numbers that start with 240 and have software version 7.1a). I have been using two Linksys WUSB11 adapters with peer-to-peer for months. The new adapters are version 2 but will not connect with each other. When I create the network on DVR 1 I can see it in the list of available networks on DVR 2 but it won't show in now playing once the setup is complete. I don't think the new adapters are broken since I can connect to a neighborÂ’s unsecured network and browse the web.
     
  12. jhwpbm

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    I have no problem with the D-Link 624 in a mixed "b"/"g" envionment here - two laptops on the "g" side (one a ThinkPad using the internal wireless adapter, one an HP with one of the D-Link "g"'s), TiVo on the "b" with the Linksys USB adapter, all interoperate well.
     
  13. CharlesH

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    You can add me to the list of people for whom the D-Link DWL-G120 (B1 version) bombed. Took multiple reboots to get it to recognize it; disconnecting it resulted in a reboot every time, and finally it stopped working (in mid-transfer) altogether, and nothing I did would get the TiVo (model 240, 7.1a) to recognize it again. I finally gave up on wireless and risked spousal wrath (and got some) by getting a wired USB adapter and running a CAT-5 cable.
     
  14. TiVoBill

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    Peer to Peer connections are not supported in the 802.11g drivers that we are currently using. Sorry for not mentioning that earlier. I will update the main post.
     
  15. TiVoBill

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    Sorry for the inconvenience. We didn't discover the incompatibility until this week (the adapters went on sale on the TiVo Store last Thursday). When we discovered the issue, we pulled them off the TiVo Store right away. Over the next day or so, you should receive an e-mail indicating that we will be refunding the entire cost of the adapter you purchased from the TiVo Store (including tax and shipping).
     
  16. vincen11

    vincen11 New Member

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    How do I know what version I have of this adapter. B1 B2 etc??

    Thanks, Fred
     
  17. TiVoBill

    TiVoBill New Member

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    It's printed on the bottom of the adapter, and in most cases on the box.
     
  18. winink

    winink New Member

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    fredm54: Welcome to the community. I'm a relatively new poster myself, but I've been reading the forums for a while now.

    I've read somewhere in another forum that with the newer TiVo SA2 models (540x), the USB hardware is actually cheaper and the CPU of the machine handles this capability. And when you are transferring a file via TiVoToGo, the TiVo CPU is actually encrypting the file while it is being transferred. So with our newer machines, the CPU handles a pretty big burden at the same time, and I believe this is what is killing our transfer speeds.

    I noticed the exact same situation with my TiVo on my all-802.11g network. In fact, by downgrading my wireless adapter to 802.11b, I was able to effectively double my TiVoToGo transfer speed. If you're interested, I wrote about my experience with this on another thread I started called "Slower TTG transfers with wireless G." (I'm not allowed to link to it since I don't have 5 posts yet). But you might want to try using a 802.11b adapter, or just hard-wire it to your router/access point.

    - Win
     
  19. Scrappy

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    Are there any plans in the future for peer-to-peer support?
     
  20. TiVoBill

    TiVoBill New Member

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    My understanding is that the Linux drivers we are using for 802.11g do not support peer-to-peer connections. I havn't heard of any plans to add that support in the future, but it's always possible.
     

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