8 tuner Tivo?

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  1. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    It happened at my brothers house last year. Couldn't even watch live tv without breakdowns and glitches because the box wanted to talk to the mothership even when we didn't do anything. (He was having connectivity problems.) Don't even try to change the channel when the system is not communicating.
     
  2. ajwees41

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    it would have to come from Arris not Moto
     
  3. Bigg

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    Note that I am somewhat biased, as DISH doesn't compete in my market (Hartford-New Haven) or our state's other DMA, NYC. They will install a dish, but they don't have any of our sports channels, so they are basically a big joke around here.

    That being said, DISH's picture quality is inferior to cable, and especially DirecTV. Their channel lineup is far inferior, their sports are far inferior. You can't compete on DVR alone. With a few exceptions for a few RSN carriage issues, DirecTV is the dominant player in content and video quality. I've almost never seen a high-end home theater installed with DISH. A good chunk of them, including virtually all of the ones that watch sports on their giant screens, use DirecTV.

    Agreed. But they are not going to license to the RCNs of the world. And I doubt they want to do business with small MSOs that they don't compete with, as they are just too small to bother with. Those are the MSOs that already have a relationship with TiVo.

    X1 here crashed tonight. It started randomly bringing up the time bar. Switched over to a TiVo Mini. :eek:
     
  4. randian

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    My experience with DirecTV is that every time there's a heavy rainstorm (and there are plenty of those in Florida) the signal pixelates badly, often disappearing entirely.
     
  5. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    My experience with that is usually a non-optimal installation. You could also use the larger 1M dish to gather more signal strength like we use in HI. Of course you need a good spot to hide it.
     
  6. SomeRandomIdiot

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    That is an issue - primarily because of rainfade on Ka is about 3x that of the Ku Band.

    However, as DirecTV has stopped with SD units that were not MPEG4 compatible (as of about a year ago), it is believed that the majority of HD Channels will move from the 99/103 Ka Birds back to the Ku 101 Bird which will then transmit MPEG4 instead of MPEG2.
     
  7. SomeRandomIdiot

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    Really? It certainly looks like they are looking at EXACTLY those MSOs.

    http://www.multichannel.com/news/content/comcast-cox-x1-licensing-talks/356361

    Comcast's licensing strategy for X1 has been underway since at least last year. Comcast chairman and CEO Brian Roberts first told Multichannel News last fall in the publication's Operator of the Year cover story (subscription required) that Comcast is looking to license X1 to other operators.

    Beyond Cox?
    Comcast’s licensing strategy could bridge the X1’s advanced capabilities to other independent cable operators, including tier 2s, that don’t have the resources to develop and maintain such a product.

    Rich Fickle, the president and CEO of the National Cable Television Cooperative, told Multichannel News in a recent interview that it’s too early to predict how receptive the organization and its constituents would be to an X1 licensing model, labeling such discussions as “informal.”

    “Technically, the execution of it will take some time and work to make it friendly to other companies,” Fickle said, noting that he’s been told that 2015 offers a “realistic timetable” for when Comcast might be ready to ramp up its X1 licensing efforts.

    The notion of licensing X1 has some upside, particularly as operators mull their IP video transitions, Joe Jensen, the chief technology officer of Buckeye CableSystem, said.

    “It’s not something we’re ready to do, but it’s something we’ll consider in the future,” he said when asked about his interest in licensing X1. He stressed that “nothing definitive” has been put forth on the idea yet.

    “I think Comcast has made a valiant attempt to try to put the right features in place to do something like that,” Jensen said. “We want to be the aggregator of choice, to be the place where our customers go to find and consumer entertainment."

    If licensing X1 could help to “unify the customer experience across cable, I think that’s certainly a positive,” he added.
     
  8. SomeRandomIdiot

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    And let's not forget:

    http://www.multichannel.com/news/content/cox-inks-national-x1-deal-comcast/395239

    Cox Inks National X1 Deal with Comcast
    Cox Bows X1-Powered ‘Contour’ Service in San Diego

    Pleased with its customer and employee trials of Comcast’s IP-capable X1 platform, Cox Communications said it has signed a national licensing deal for X1 and has sparked a commercial rollout of a new version of Cox’s multiscreen “Contour” offering in San Diego.

    Cox recently expanded its X1 trial in San Diego, offering it to customers there who contacted the MSO about the pilot. Previously, Cox was limiting the field test to employees and other “friendlies.” Cox had also been testing X1 with select customers in its Middle Georgia systems.

    The licensing deal is a big win for Comcast, which has been looking to scale up its platform by partnering up with other MVPDs. Cox was the first operator outside of Comcast to evaluate X1, but Shaw Communications of Canada has also jumped in to trial it, and expects to move ahead with a commercial launch during Shaw’s 2016 fiscal year.
    Comcast has accelerated its rollout of X1 to about 40,000 boxes per day. Arris and Pace, which are merging, are Comcast's primary X1 box suppliers.
     
  9. Bigg

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    That sounds to me like they want Cox, Charter/TWC/BHN, and CableVision, not the little ones. Plus, they would never license to RCN specifically because they directly compete with RCN, so that would be sort of dumb.
     
  10. SomeRandomIdiot

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    Depending on the ranking, RCN is between #10 to #14 ranked Cable System in America.

    You will also note in the story the quotes from Buckeye Cable. You think they are bigger than RCN?

    And perhaps you just did not read the links - where it states that Comcast WANTS the smaller systems who do not have the resources to build a system like this on their own because of their size.

    Now, perhaps you should read the links to see what Comcast is saying about their plans.
     
  11. Bigg

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    Do they directly compete with Comcast?

    We'll see. I think Comcast is still going after the smaller, but still large providers, not the GCIs and Wave Broadbands of the world.
     
  12. SomeRandomIdiot

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    rtfl

    who do you believe....someone named Roberts at Comcast or someone named Biggs?
     
  13. Bigg

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    I've read a number of articles about their plans.
     
  14. ej42137

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    I don't have a very high opinion of Biggs, but I'd believe him any day of the week over a cable company bigwig. An I would believe any other random cable company executive before I would trust one from Comcast.
     
  15. SomeRandomIdiot

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    I would agree with you if the person speaking from Comcast was a CSR....however...

    1) If the person is named Roberts and is laying out their future plans which is key to Stockholders and Investors

    2) said plans have been seen in action by agreements with Cox, Shaw Cable and others

    Then I will chose to believe the head of Comcast.

    Can you point to ANY major initiative that Roberts has announced that he did not follow through on trying to complete?

    You can name Comcast - TWC, but federal regulations stopped that one - and he tried to complete it.

    He has spoken out about Cable Caps - and he has put them in action.

    Its very hard to just dismiss him on this subject because someone on the internet *thinks* they know better.

    I always say consider the source - even if its from me.
     
  16. Bigg

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    Comcast *IS* marketing the X1 platform to other MSOs. We're not debating this. What we're debating is how small they will go. I think they're looking for MSOs that are too small to develop their own platform but still decent sized, not the small MSOs of the world, many of whom are already on TiVo's platform, or are competitors to Comcast, and thus ineligible to get anything from Comcast, like WOW, Wave, and RCN.

    Comcast legitimately has some amazing technology on their network, they just seem to abuse and squander a lot of it, instead of using it to deliver the highest quality TV service in the country, which is well within their technical reach. Instead, they just hand the crown to DirecTV.
     
  17. SomeRandomIdiot

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    Cox Cable is the #3 Cable Company in size. Guess they are "too small" to develop their own technology.:D

    Furthermore, Buckeye has about 1/3 the number of subs that RCN has, yet Buckeye is interviewed in the link provided.
     
  18. Bigg

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    Yes, Cox is probably too small. It was a huge undertaking to try and re-invent the wheel for Comcast. Buckeye is still a LOT bigger than some of the small MSOs.
     
  19. SomeRandomIdiot

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  20. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Wasn't Charter going to buy RCN?
     

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