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Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by dthreet, Aug 9, 2007.
so MRV is gone from 6.3.
no thanks DTV.
I received an email from DirecTV that had this press release link.
Yes it's old, but relevant again.
Until recently, 6.1 was the version for the R10, 6.2 for other S2 standard-def DTiVos and 6.3 for the HR10. Now all will be using 6.3. This makes a lot of sense from the development and maintenance side, but if you relied on hidden "goodies" in the older versions, the new merged version will mean a loss of features. You decide how you want to play it.
I guess we'll wait and see if 30s skip is gone as well.
I would really doubt that 30-sec skip is gone. It's still present in the latest standalone Tivo software.
I suppose I should have used a on that remark.
Too late for me. I got it without asking for it.
Whew... sure am glad both my DTivo's are not connected to the phone lines!
Anyone who has "hacked" their TiVo should have it configured with the bootflag UPGRADESOFTWARE=false to prevent unexpected upgrades. Disconnecting the phone line also works.
Well looks like 6.3e, hme has been taken away also form the HR10-250. Tried to run the scripts for hme on one of my HR10's. Does same thing as Phillips DSR704 did, get hung in boot cycle. I am going back to 6.2 to get back mrv and going back to 6.3c on my HR10-250's. I hope 6.3e has some stuff I dont know about, beacause I am not going to go for no HME and no chance of mrv. I don't care about online scheduling I can do that w/ gotomydvr and undelete shows I can roll back to 3.1.f and do that with Tivowebplus.
I wonder if the Tivo branded wireless G adapter still works in 6.3
From what I understand in another forum, the patch locations to enable HME, etc., have changed in 6.3e.
yeah I haven't read anything that makes 6.3e a must have on my units.
I am still a little confused about MRV vs. HME+MovieLoader.
If the only thing I ever use MRV for is to transfer/watch shows from one SD DirecTiVo to another, would I be getting the same functionality running 6.3 and using HME+MovieLoader? I have a mix of SD and HD DirecTiVo's and it would be nice to be able to transfer/watch shows across all units.
What is the best way to discover if the slices are present in the MFS? I have a hacked Hughes SD-DVR80 and I don't want to wait for "Pending Restart" to appear in my system information screen and I don't want to use Tivoweb.
Telnet in to your tivo, and assuming you have the mfs tools installed:
I also have a mix of SD and HD units. HME+MovieLoader works like MRV...almost. There are some catches:
1. You need a PC (Windows, Mac, Linux) to be on to use MovieLoader.
2. MovieLoader only refreshes and caches what's on the connected TiVos periodically. MRV is real time. So very newly recorded shows may not show up in MovieLoader without forcing it to re-cache.
3. You need an up-do-date patched mfs_ftp.
4. If I start watching a show during a MovieLoader transfer, the recording progress bar doesn't grow unless I go back to the menu show info screen and then hit play again. Consequently, the local TiVo thinks the show is shorter than it really is. If someone has a different experience, let me know.
I'm a big fan of MovieLoader, but there are some advantages/disadvantages to using it.
Here are some MovieLoader pros/cons vs. MRV.
1. MovieLoader can both "push" & "pull" content from another Tivo instead of just pulling a la MRV.
2. MovieLoader can also be used for insertion/extraction to/from a PC.
3. (This one is a biggie) There is no MRV for the HR10-250, so for transfering between an HR10-250 and an SD DirecTivo, MovieLoader is a clear choice.
1. MRV is much more robust than MovieLoader. MovieLoader is dependent upon the kludgy mfs_ftp program.
2. MRV is more user friendly, as it appears right in the NPL, instead of going to the main menu, choosing "Music, Photos & More" and then choosing "MovieLoader". Also, MRV works much better when your transfer speeds are slow, by pausing the transferring video, whereas w/ MovieLoader it will think it's at the end of the video and ask to delete it.
3. You need a computer that is always on to run MovieLoader.
4. Mfs_ftp can be a pain to get running, although it has gotten a bit better due to some folks at DDB updating it recently.
tsanga and whitepelican thanks alot for the explanation. It looks like I will be spending some time doing this for all of my DirecTiVos! I have a few questions on your points I listed above.
tsanga # 2: We view most shows days after we record them so I am sure that this would not be a problem. What is the typical delay time -- is it hours or minutes?
tsanga # 4: Does it still eventually play that entire show? Say for instance that you are transferring over a 30 min show and start watching it after 15 mins have been transferred -- does the show pause at 15 mins, thinking it is done and asks you if you want to delete it?
whitepelican # 2: (This is probably similar to tsanga # 4). Will it pause and ask you to delete it only if you catch up with the transfer? If the transfer stays ahead of you will the show just keep going until the real end? When it does pause and ask you to delete, do you just have to wait a few moments and let the transfer get ahead of you then press play to continue watching?
Let me try to describe for you how it works. This might sound a little confusing, but I'll give it a shot.
When you select a recording to transfer from withing MovieLoader, it doesn't give you the option to start watching from within MovieLoader, so you need to go back to your NPL and select that recording. Then, when you start viewing it, if for example it is an hour-long recording, you will see the playbar on the bottom for a regular one-hour recording, but the green section might only be ~ 15 minutes. In other words, it will look like a partial recording. If you just watch that first 15 minutes straight through it will get to the end (of the 15 minutes) and think the recording is done, asking you to delete it or keep it. Then, when you return to the NPL and go back to watch it again, it will have completed more of the transfer, but it will also have lost your position and will start playing from the beginning.
The way to avoid this is to periodically return to the NPL before you get within the last five minutes of the green playbar section. By doing this, it updates the green section to however much has been transferred. So, in the case of the hour long recording where only 15 minutes is originally displayed, if you go back to the NPL after 7-8 minutes and then resume playing the recording, it might now show 30 or 45 minutes of green playbar. Doing this a couple of times while the transfer is in progress makes for the best case scenario when you want to watch the show immediately. Alternatively, if you just set it to transfer, and then wait until it is complete, it will just play like any normal recording.
Also, MovieLoader does allow you to queue up several recordings to transfer consecutively.