6.3 Changes / Features / Performance

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by JaserLet, Sep 14, 2006.

  1. Sep 15, 2006 #61 of 305
    headcase

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    How can channels that the user wants permanently off, which are magically turned back on, be called a "feature"??? And this isn't just limited to a couple of shopping channels -- it also happens with some of the "DirecTV channels" and other useless odd-balls I've repeatedly turned off.

    No, in my book, that's a bug, even if it's more of a "TV programing bug" as opposed to a "technical bug".
     
  2. Sep 15, 2006 #62 of 305
    BrettStah

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    It's not a bug, because the software is behaving as it was designed to do so. The software is designed to automatically add any new channels that are added to the list of channels to the "Channels I Receive" list (presumably so that users would see that new channels are available, in case the users would find something interesting to watch on it - otherwise, users may never know about a new channel being available).

    Could this feature be designed better? Sure... the software could be designed to remember which channels have previously been deselected by the user, and if that same exact channel is removed and then added back sometime in the future, to NOT add that channel back. But that's not how it is currently designed to operate - hopefully either the 6.3 update does add this enhancement, or a future update (if any) does so.
     
  3. Sep 15, 2006 #63 of 305
    headcase

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    I'm fully aware of that apect in your first point, which is certainly NOT a bug, and I agree on it's intent.

    OK, so it's a "design flaw", vs. "bug", or whatever... but in the end, I'm referring to channels which are not "new", but are in fact the same channels that have been offered by DirecTV for many months (if not years), and they keep rearing their ugly heads even within 48 hours of the user turning them off. And if they keep coming back on, simply because some idiots back in the head office have decided to keep flagging those particular channels as "new", then hence my earlier comment that it's more like a "TV programming bug" (by the geniuses in the head office).

    And if it's simply them flagging the channels ALWAYS as "hey, I'm a new channel, check me out!", then obviously a new software update won't remedy that. Uugh - more like a human bug.
     
  4. Sep 15, 2006 #64 of 305
    Pab Sungenis

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    Maybe someone in the Underground or "over there" with more experience in MFS than I should write a "nuke channel" TCL script, so that if a specific channel number or code shows up in your "received" lists, it's removed immediately.
     
  5. Sep 15, 2006 #65 of 305
    jamieh1

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    Once a channel is removed by directv (taken down not available to view) and then the channel comes back up, it will automatically appear in the list.

    Example the infomercial channels like Celeb shopping, GEMS these channels are only on for a certain amount of time each day, then directv removes it, you cant even tune to it, it does not show up, then directv adds it back the next day to air it again. Directv does this on these part time ad channels so they will appear on subs recievers because Directv makes money on the ad channels and they want them viewable, not removed from the channels list.
     
  6. Sep 15, 2006 #66 of 305
    k2ue

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    I've had HD receivers with Native, and unless you're compulsive (maybe 50% of the folks here <grin>) you wind up not using it because the time to a stable picture goes way up, and channel surfing becomes agony. Think about it: the Receiver has to switch conversions, then output enough for the TV to determine the format, then the TV has to switch. OTOH setting the output to the native resolution of your TV requires nothing to change with channel -- much faster. Besides, I've found SD channels look better when output to my Sammy DLP at 720p, than when output at 480i or 480p with all the receivers I've used (Hughes, Samsung & HR10). And 1080i HD, such as HDnet Test Patterns look equally good when output at 720p, vs. letting the Sammy convert.

    So Native may be more of a solution in search of a problem for most folks.
     
  7. Sep 15, 2006 #67 of 305
    lynesjc

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    I actually agree with you on this. I'd like NP as a feature, but wouldn't ever use it.
     
  8. Sep 15, 2006 #68 of 305
    keenanSR

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    Hooked up a S3 last night with a DVDO VP30 video processor, and NP is very nice, I won't be using the S3 any other way. Having the deinterlacing/scaling offloaded to a more capable device can give definite improvements in PQ.

    The improvements may not be as realized with a sat signal though given the torture it's already been through.
     
  9. Sep 15, 2006 #69 of 305
    JoeSchueller

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    Dont forget HR10's also support OTA (much less "molesting" than the D* signals), so NP is still a big deal.
     
  10. Sep 15, 2006 #70 of 305
    BBREAL

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    Gee, you guys found a lot of stuff so quickly. I did not get channel logos/icons as I expected with a new update that had been lost with a hard drive replacement. Any chance they still may show up? Also under system info I see a category I never saw before
    DVR Service level with a P next to it. What is that?
     
  11. Sep 15, 2006 #71 of 305
    keenanSR

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    Yes, very true, forgot about that, I don't get OTA up here in the boondocks where I'm at. :p
     
  12. Sep 15, 2006 #72 of 305
    Pab Sungenis

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    Another interesting change. When setting recording options, adding time to the end of a recording has always had the option "1 minute," "2 minutes," "5 minutes," "10 minutes" and so on. When setting a new season pass on 6.3 today, it offered padding of 1, 2, 3, 4, then 5 minutes.

    A bit more flexible.
     
  13. Sep 15, 2006 #73 of 305
    newsposter

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    P remier? Guess not T itanium

    Paid?
     
  14. Sep 15, 2006 #74 of 305
    MisterEd

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    Have new channel logos been added within this new update ?
     
  15. Sep 15, 2006 #75 of 305
    Cudahy

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    The site description says "several weeks" so I guess most of us can expect it by the end of September.
    I still have no idea if the "folders" change will be useful.
     
  16. Sep 15, 2006 #76 of 305
    BBREAL

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    I needed them and did not get them. Did anyone else get them that did not already have them?

    I just noticed on the web page describing the update that the screen shot shows no logos on Now Playing.

    How do we get the logos now?
     
  17. Sep 15, 2006 #77 of 305
    rrr22777

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    Here is my experience... initially after the upgrade for about 1-2 hours it was very slow. Must be doing something in the background. After that it is very fast. All functionality is faster, menus, navigation, guide etc

    The Audio DRM is a nice feature. Must be there on my other tivo. Always wondered why the sound effects and commercials seemed bearable on those compared to the HR10.
     
  18. Sep 15, 2006 #78 of 305
    cheer

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    Totally depends on your set. Is your TV older? Because I gotta tell you, my Panny plasma has way better scaling than the HR10-250, so I'd definitely prefer NP (though it's not a huge thing for me). Also, people who use external scalars truly need NP.
     
  19. Sep 15, 2006 #79 of 305
    cheer

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    Regarding DRC:
    Actually, it's never been available for digital output -- and still isn't. Which sucks. Especially as some of the commercials inserted by D* (as opposed to those coming from the networks) are WAY louder than the shows (esp. shows in 5.1).

    I pretty much have to sit here with the remote in my hand and an itchy trigger finger. S'pose I'll have to get a receiver that does this at some point.
     
  20. Sep 15, 2006 #80 of 305
    Dssturbo1

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    ok anubis doesn't want this feature or doesnt matter to him

    but can you pull up the channel guide while watching a prerecorded program with 6.3?
     

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