6.2 Rollout delayed

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by rminsk, Apr 5, 2005.

  1. MichaelK

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    its a fact my friend.

    If you go to the boards where the real hackers hang you can learn all the specifics. Even how to install it from the slices which are most likely on YOUR hard drive.

    Its pretty simple logic- how much does it cost in bandwidth to download 1.5 million boxes new software over the internet on the tivo dail call? How much does that cost them going over someother providers line (the tivo call goes over UUnet of some other ISP). Now instead of sending 50 megs of software (or whatever it is) to 1.5 million boxes over the net you send 50 megs over the satellite stream once a week at 3am over bandwidth you already own. Which way do you pick? Doing it over the satellite makes tons of sense.

    they still use the phone calls to control it but rather then send down 50 megs on each call then send a couple k with instructions to unpack the main download from the satellite.


    its the same logiv that they used to download guide data for the stand alone boxes daily over the net but now they try to send it in a late night broadcast on the discovery channel. The boxes still call in daily (or every other day) to get the keys to unlock the discover channel downloads but again thats a few k instead of a few hundred k or megs.

    In both instances if any particular box disnt get the bullk download then the server gives the box the entire main download. ( for example if your box records tv shows on the nights when the slices are downloaded.)
     
  2. Diana Collins

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    No I don't actually...I simply had not been in touch with anyone when the question was posed on my board. I simply had no information to convey. Unlike some people, I don't feel a need to post non-information.

    I've not asked about 6.2 because I don't consider it very important. I'd rather use my contacts to know what their HD plans are, and what they plan to do about the HD Tivos. I'll be able to share that information soon...right now I've been asked to keep it quiet.
     
  3. Diana Collins

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    You are quite correct, for all releases prior to 3.1C. Since the download of 3.1B, updates have been delivered via satellite, and then the install launched by a phone call (which now takes only a few minutes).
     
  4. aristoBrat

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    Ummm, they look?!?! :D
     
  5. Feb 1, 2006 #165 of 180
    willardcpa

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    Just a bump for designdawg
     
  6. Feb 1, 2006 #166 of 180
    tbeckner

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    It appears that 6.2 is now downloading via a phone call, instead of the satellite. I installed a new SD-DVR80 on Monday with 3.1.1 and forced a call this evening and it appears that it is downloading 6.2, because the download has been running for almost an hour.
     
  7. Feb 1, 2006 #167 of 180
    willardcpa

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    IIRC I think that the satellite download may have taken a day or two to get all on there, it got put on in pieces, hence the "slice" method that many used to force its early installation. If it wasn't already all on there via satellite then the phone call would grab it. But on the other hand those satellite downloads may be used for the "wholesale distribution" of the software, so maybe they aren't pumping it out to everybody every night, and just handling it on an exception basis via phone.
     
  8. Feb 1, 2006 #168 of 180
    DesignDawg

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    No, dude. I'm sorry, and I don't mean to be argumentative, but they took 6.2 OUT OF THE STREAM. It's a phone dlownload now. There's plenty of sources for that. Yes, 6.2 WAS a satellite download, but since everyone has it now, they took it out and made it a phone DL again.
    If a new version of the software came out (which isn't going to happen), it would be a satellite DL again. But for now, 6.2 is over the phone only. I've downloaded it over the phone with no dish hooked up. --With my last receiver.

    Ricky
     
  9. Feb 1, 2006 #169 of 180
    willardcpa

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    OK, as I said above, maybe that's the case. But if you don't have a dish hooked up, kinda hard for you to determine if it could have come down via the satellite. :p :D
     
  10. Feb 1, 2006 #170 of 180
    DesignDawg

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    No, I HAVE a dish hooked up. But my last receiver was brought to me at work (from a friend) and I hooked it up here, sans-dish, and it downloaded the 6.2 software for hours. It had not been turned on in years, and had been sitting in a closet. It most definitely downloaded 6.2 over the phone, which is what they are doing now. I was only posting to find out whether test calls erase partial downloads.

    Ricky
     
  11. Feb 1, 2006 #171 of 180
    tbeckner

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    Ricky,

    You are RIGHT, 6.2 is now being downloaded via phone. I installed a new SD-DVR80 on Monday and I forced a call this evening (it took over an hour) and it downloaded 6.2 and 6.2 is being installed as I type this entry. I figured that they had switched the 6.2 download off the satellite some time ago, which is the reason I forced the call this evening.

    Tim

    Additional Edit:

    I have verified that 6.2 downloaded this evening and installed via a phone call. And be pre-warned that the 6.2 upgrade resets your "Channels You Recieve" and "Favorite Channels".
     
  12. Feb 1, 2006 #172 of 180
    Diana Collins

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    The 6.2 software has ALWAYS been available by phone. If your TiVo makes two calls in a row with version 3.1, then version 6.2 will download via phone.

    The fact that you can download 6.2 via phone does not prove it is not also available via satellite. We'd need a few reports of people leaving their TiVos connected to the dish for a few days without getting a download.

    PS: The receiver needs to be activated to download via satellite, but does NOT need to be activated to download via phone.
     
  13. Feb 1, 2006 #173 of 180
    tbeckner

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    Interesting, sorry but I didn't want to wait a week for the second non-forced phone call to test this out, I forced a call this evening.

    But from the time I activated it on Monday the SD-DVR80 had made two phone calls. I forced a call the first day and it automatically called in yesterday, Tuesday. And for some reason it didn't download the software on the second call (non-forced), which is why I forced the call this evning.

    If he doesn't have a good phone connection, then maybe his best course of action should be to activate and wait, because a software install phone call might be easier to make over a VOIP connection.
     
  14. Feb 2, 2006 #174 of 180
    Diana Collins

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    Understandable. I replaced 4 DirecTiVos last fall and let 2 of them download on their own from the satellite, and forced two via phone. So, I know for a fact that 6.2 was available both ways in the Sept/Oct time frame. It's just a matter of your own agenda and timetable.
     
  15. Feb 5, 2006 #175 of 180
    lonewoolf47

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    What is the difference between 6.1 and 6.2? My 704 has 6.2 and my R-10 has the 6.1. Forgive me if this is common knowledge found among other threads but I have not seen it. Also should I have 6.2 on my R-10?
     
  16. Feb 5, 2006 #176 of 180
    JaserLet

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    6.1 is only for the R10. It's basiclly the same thing as 6.2. The latest version for the R10 is 6.1.
     
  17. Jun 7, 2006 #177 of 180
    HummerGuy

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    Please help! How can I get the Folder option on my HD HR250 unit!!!
     
  18. Jun 7, 2006 #178 of 180
    tbeckner

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    It is "NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME", because the HR10-250 requires a new software version which hasn't been released.
     
  19. Jun 8, 2006 #179 of 180
    ttodd1

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    You have been told numerous times - It is not available on your model - maybe in the future....... :eek:
     
  20. Jun 8, 2006 #180 of 180
    Billy Bob Boy

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    Yes the future "Futurama" :D mabye if you get frozen for 1000 years you will awaken and find it updated :D
     

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