6.2 Rollout delayed

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by rminsk, Apr 5, 2005.

  1. Apr 6, 2005 #61 of 180
    rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    It could be a total rewrite of the total code base for all we know. With access to there source tree and revision logs we can never tell.
     
  2. Apr 6, 2005 #62 of 180
    tivoboi

    tivoboi rminsk fact-checker

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    Displeasure with what? DirecTV never promised that you'd get 6.2 in January. In fact, they didn't promise that you'd get it on any specific date. So what do you have to be displeased about? The fact that TiVo doesn't want to release software that might break some fundamental functionality of your unit?

    DirectTV stated that 6.2 would start appearing in February and roll out "over several months." So even if it takes them 'til July to start it up again, they've kept their word.

    The only people promising hard and fast dates have been the Message Board Brigade.
     
  3. Apr 6, 2005 #63 of 180
    cowboys2002

    cowboys2002 Well-Known Member

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    Well,

    My hdvr2 received 6.2 2 weeks ago. My newer Philips DSR 708 has yet to receive it.

    This past Saturday, I had a message on the HDVR2 about the new software after the next call in. The Philips Box has yet to notify me, and countless "waiting" for next call in has not resulted in 6.2 .

    To be quite honest, the folders take a little bit to get used to!!
     
  4. Apr 6, 2005 #64 of 180
    Pauli

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    FWIW, my unit received the 6.2 update this morning. If it was supposed to be "delayed", why did mine get activated today, after the decision was already made to delay the rollout?
     
  5. Apr 6, 2005 #65 of 180
    rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    Your machine was already on the list to receive the update and the phone call activated it. Once your machine is on the list for 6.2 they do not roll it back.
     
  6. Apr 6, 2005 #66 of 180
    tivoboi

    tivoboi rminsk fact-checker

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    Could be that we're all arguing about something that didn't even happen! :D
     
  7. Apr 6, 2005 #67 of 180
    ChristianZane

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    You can manually turn off folders.

     
  8. Apr 6, 2005 #68 of 180
    btwyx

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    That'd be unusual, usually the arguments are about something which will never happen.
     
  9. Apr 6, 2005 #69 of 180
    skinnyjm

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    I have a couple of questions,
    Wasn't 6.x used on Series2 SA units before?

    If so,
    What part of the code, that DTV had TiVo change, would break the channel changing part?

    If not,
    Forget the second question. :p

    Either way, I can't believe it would be used as an excuse for the dreaded "Pop Up" ads.
    They're smarter than that and they know we're not that dumb. :D

    So I guess they will redownload a "6.2a" version?
     
  10. Apr 6, 2005 #70 of 180
    rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    I do not think they had 6.x for the SA units.

    Remember SA units use IR to change the channel and only a single tuner too worry about. Could not really guess what the problem is without the source code.
     
  11. Apr 6, 2005 #71 of 180
    dtremain

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    Becasue you are in Southern California where they are test releasing it. The "delay" is for the rest of the country.
     
  12. Apr 6, 2005 #72 of 180
    dtremain

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    :p I know...let's start talking about how Directv is going to cause all of our machines not to work because they want to sell their own which aren't even on the market yet. Hey, if we talk about that, maybe our "window" buttons will work!!! :rolleyes:
     
  13. Apr 6, 2005 #73 of 180
    skinnyjm

    skinnyjm I'm Grumpy???

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    Thanks rminsk,
    For some reason I thought 6.x was used by TiVo before. :eek:

    So, I guess I'm still wondering,
    What part of the 3.1.1e code, addressing dual tuners, got broken by 6.2? :confused:
    Channel changing seems pretty basic to me.
    But like you have said, without the source, who knows? :D
     
  14. Apr 6, 2005 #74 of 180
    btwyx

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    Mine works.
     
  15. Apr 6, 2005 #75 of 180
    dssdbs

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    The only thing wrong with my DirecTiVo's right now is 2 - 5 second audio dropouts on all of the MusicChoice channels. If this isn't fixed in 6.2, then I could care less if 6.2 is ever deployed.

    Come on DirecTV/TiVo!!! This problem has been around for over a year now, why hasn't there been a fix yet? I wonder if MusicChoice knows that there are dropouts on their channels?
     
  16. Apr 6, 2005 #76 of 180
    dssdbs

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    People just like to spread FUD... I am not the least bit worried about DirecTV's continued reliance on TiVo for a Quality DVR for their service.
     
  17. Apr 6, 2005 #77 of 180
    dtremain

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    Neither am I. Didn't the silly faces make that clear? Sorry if my little attempt at humor fell flat. As my penance, I will go try to figure out what my USB port does. :confused:
     
  18. Apr 7, 2005 #78 of 180
    skinnyjm

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    Me Neither,
    I'm onboard with DTV too, been with them as my TV provider for over 5 years now and haven't been disappointed.
    :up:

    USB port? What's that??? :D
     
  19. Apr 7, 2005 #79 of 180
    cwerdna

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    See my post at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=2585456&highlight=version#post2585456 for my hypothesis about their source trees.

    Just because there's been a HUGE gap between 3.1.x and 6.2 doesn't mean that they've been working on it all along and putting many resources on it. I've been working on software for years now and it's a pain in the ass to deal w/multiple simultaneous projects and code bases.

    You've got the separate code and different sets of test cases for each (presumably a lot is common, but there are differences) and then you have to run them. What happens when they make a fix in 3.x that they want to fix in higher numbered versions? They need to propagate the same change forward and run tests. What about the other way? They've made UI changes and added features in each version (and possibly removed some too), so you've got to maintain test cases that deal w/that, esp. since some cases don't make sense in certain versions.

    They've got a growing set of different hardware too.

    They've also got their priorities as to what they need to get out the door for who (themselves, DirecTV, xxx OEM, etc.) and why (reasons like major bug that needs fixing, complaints, competition, business, contractual, xxx OEM plans to ship on yyy date, more $, etc.). With DirecTV, I'm sure they're gated by what DirecTV wants and what DirecTV will pay Tivo. Right now, they're probably working on a Japanese Tivo release, fixes to 6.2, stuff for Comcast, some other future release and who knows what else?

    Many businesses aren't that easy to run, Tivo's being one of them.
     
  20. Apr 7, 2005 #80 of 180
    Doug G

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    Sorry to rain on the conspiracy parade, folks. Check this post for more info.

    Let's hope this is just a quick patch requiring minimal re-test and will only hold up the release another week or two at the most.
     

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