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Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by zombiephysicist, Mar 19, 2019.
So over 3 months. So far, knock wood. Only 5% usage though.
I decided to upgrade one of my older Bolts which was on TE4 and had a lot of shows I wanted saved for the kids and the Micron 5210 would get stuck at the starting up screen. Luckily putting the old drive back in worked without loss of shows. I'm seeking help to see if my mfscopy procedure worked correctly first before giving up, but it is not looking good. I know with certainty that my Micron 1100 2TB no longer works under TE4, so I'm now suspecting the same for the Micron 5210 drives. Earlier I thought zombiephysicist was on TE4, so I thought it was safe.
Interesting. I never did copy. I just formatted it clean with mfsr and put it in as a new drive. And I'm using a Bolt + 6 tuner model. I'm not sure what the TE 4 is.
I'm at 4 months and 6% usage (although I have hundreds and hundreds of suggestions on the drive so I do suspect it is in actuality full), and so far, knock wood, it's going great.
I can only vouch for the path I took and that it's working great (knock wood) for me so far. Sorry to hear of the problems you're experiencing. I wonder if you tried just nuking the drive with the mfsr and running to see if it might work that way. Just to reduce the number of variables.
TE 4 or TE 3 refers to the UI. TE 4 is Hydra/Mira and TE 3 is Encore/Quattro which you can find at the very last few entries in the System Information screen.
Oh, thanks. Yea, I never upgraded to the new UI. I use the old traditional UI. Heard too many bad things about the new UI and that there was no easy undo for it. Mine says quattro.
v21.7+/Hydra/TE4 is the new UI interface. TE3 is the older UI. You mentioned earlier in this thread you stuck with the older UI, so unless you upgraded the software you are still on the older UI. If you accidentally upgrade you will lose your shows, assuming TE4 is the problem, and you would have to find a different drive to downgrade your Bolt. Unfortunately I have all Vox remotes, so just pressing the voice button kicks off the upgrade. This Bolt is for my kids and they just mash buttons till the get what they want, which means I likely can’t control the upgrade from happening.
Also everyone in the house likes the new UI and it has the auto commercial skip feature everyone likes. Under the new UI, the biggest loss for me is the ability to transfer shows between TiVos and PCs, which is an insurance policy during drive upgrade failures.
Wow, that is insane!?!? A button press shouldnt launch an upgrade! And an upgrade shouldnt nuke shows! Crazy. TiVo is making it more and more desirable to stop using their devices and just go to full on streaming...
Upgrade won’t nuke shows unless your drive is one of the drives TE 4 hangs on. Technically those shows are not nuked but recovering from that nukes the recordings. If you know of a drive that works, cloning the drive would save it. Only downgrades lose shows.
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But how do you know if TE4 hangs on a drive. Why wouldn't TE4 work with at LEAST all the same drives as TE3?
That is the million dollar question. I started to investigate this in my spare time trying to see what is causing it to stall a while back when this all first started. Just ran out of spare time and work has been stalled.
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I expect cloning would work, but it would then force you to stay on TE4 and with the new drive. You could not return to TE3 nor use the SSD again as long as the Bolt is on TE4. I’ve probably been the most unlucky SOB on this site with drives failing on TE4. I really should have reverted all my TIvos to TE3, but it appears I’m a glutton for punishment.
You can return to TE3 just like any other drive that would be in there. You will lose your recordings and probably have to reexpand the space but the core partitions would stay the same.
That is assuming it will boot to being operational.
You certainly can use the SSD on TE3. I cannot say which SSD will work with TE4. We probably should keep a list somewhere with drives that work with TE4.
Nearing 6 months of use, knock wood, and the SSD is holding up. However with only 7% capacity used, but the drive has likely filled up and over several times with suggestions.
7 months and 8% usage and holding up so far. Knocking wood.
About 8 months, 9% usage. All seems to be ok. Knock wood some more.
About 9 months, 10% usage (although drive is full of suggestions). All seems to be ok. Knock wood some more.
About 10 months. 11% usage. Knock wood, all seems to be well. Also I'm sitting the bolt up in a vertical position now, which wouldn't have been possible with a spinner drive. Nice if you have a need to shove it in weird position.
Orientation does not matter for spinner drives.
So the drive is not vertical. It's in the bent part of the bolt. ----\
In the slash above. So when it's standing straight up and the spinner is basically pointing upwards but off in a slightly horizontal angle, then you have it spinning not vertically, and not horizontally. I guess the spin is definitely fast enough to create some gyro stability, but still, I think you're asking for trouble with it being off angle.
Furthermore, the HDMI cable going into is so stiff, that when I move things around, it easily moves and tips over the TiVo in it's spot. That definitely is not good for a spinner.