4TB 2.5" drive for Bolt

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  1. Aug 1, 2016 #341 of 440
    elprice7345

    elprice7345 Active Member TCF Club

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    Is the Ross Walker page incorrect?
    http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tivo_upgrade/#BOLT
     
  2. Aug 1, 2016 #342 of 440
    tivoboy

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    yeah, that is sort of what confused me.. that page seems to think anything over 2TB and it will work but not at full capacity.

    I've got it running now - not upgraded and will try the upgrade later in the week. It's going to be my Rio olympics test mule!
     
  3. Aug 1, 2016 #343 of 440
    speedy2

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    Yes. A 3TB drive will work to full capacity with no additional drive preparation. I have done it on 2 Bolts so far in they've both been fine.
     
  4. Aug 2, 2016 #344 of 440
    elprice7345

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    Curious what capacity does your 3TB show in system info?

    My 2TB Bolt shows 317 HD or 2177 SD hours.

    You should see ~1.5x the 2TB or 475?

    Ross Walker's page says a 4TB drive yields ~490 HD hours

    If my 2TB Bolt shows 317 HD hours, doesn't it stand to reason that a 4TB Bolt should have 634 HD hours?
     
  5. Aug 2, 2016 #345 of 440
    atmuscarella

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    I dropped a 3TB into my base Raomio last summer. No prep at all and it shows 477 hrs. of HD. I haven't done anything yet with my 1TB Bolt and it shows 156 hrs. of HD, which seems to be pretty close to the Roamio as 3X156= 468
     
  6. Aug 2, 2016 #346 of 440
    speedy2

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    My Bolt is showing 478 HD hours or 3289 SD hours
     
  7. Aug 4, 2016 #347 of 440
    elprice7345

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    ParityBit

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    I did the same thing with the same drive, the last two nights I got the 4 lights. :(
     
  9. Aug 4, 2016 #349 of 440
    HarperVision

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    Sorry to hear that and worried for my future! :(
     
  10. tivobw

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    Well, add me to the folks with the broken Seagate STDR4000100. :(

    I had installed this back in January of this year. Worked pretty well for a couple of weeks and I started to have issues where the DVR would freeze; we'd be watching a show or live TV and the image would freeze. A reboot would typically fix it.

    This has been going on since a few weeks after installation. I figured, OK, it's annoying, but I can just reboot it and fix it. But then 2 days ago, it wouldn't come back. I tried multiple reboots, power off/power on, etc. I keep getting the 4 lights on the front. The Tivo will not boot.

    I took the Seagate 4TB out and put the original 500GB drive in. Now the Tivo boots, of course. So I know the Seagate drive went bad (may have been bad from the start; I never tested the drive, I just expanded it and started using it).

    I'm now going to see if I can find another good 4TB drive that I can do a sector-by-sector copy on, to see if I can salvage the recordings on the Seagate, by following Ross Walker's guide to fixing a broken Tivo.

    I'm hoping since January some good 4TB 2.5" drives have come out.. but if not, I suppose I'll have to go the external upgrade route with a 3.5" 4TB drive.

    Let me know if anyone has any suggestions. I'll start reading up on the Bolt forum for other threads...
     
  11. JOSHSKORN

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    I'm in the middle of trying an experiment. I also own the Seagate STDR4000100 and had the 4 Flashing lights a few months ago like I'd detailed in a thread I'd started. I finally got around to do this, but I purchased a Rosewill Armer RX304-APU3-35B, which is meant for 3.5" drives, and then a ICY DOCK MB882SP-1S-3B EZConvert Lite Light Weight Open Air 2.5” to 3.5” SATA Hard Drive or SSD Converter / Mounting Kit. I have the left cover off of my TiVo and have a wire sticking out that plugs into the external enclosure. I also have disconnected the fan inside the TiVo.

    To the hard drive, I ran every test I could think of, the Seagate Short Test, Long Test, I ran Maconit to scan the drive, no errors, I also did a complete Windows format to NTFS. I don't know if any of this was necessary, but I did it anyway. The Enclosure came with a an external eSATA connector which I'd installed onto my computer.

    So here's the verdict:

    • 8 hours later, it's still running
    • I have not configured anything on my TiVo as of yet. No apps, no recordings, I'm just letting it run for a couple of days.
    • On my enclosure, the temperature of the hard drive is 42.4C. That's on the higher end, whereas if I'd just plugged it in, it's just above 22C.
    • The TiVo Bolt STILL runs warm, although not as warm as when I had the hard drive installed.

    If you look around, some people have modified their Bolt, removing the original cable that came with the Bolt and installing a different SATA connector that could be mounted in the back if you cut a hole. That's the connector I have, it's some Left angle connector. I'll modify my post later on with a link, I just don't have the time right now to do it.
     
  12. tivobw

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    Very interesting! Keep us posted.

    I find it amazing that after nearly 8 months (I installed the 2.5" 4TB Seagate in mid-January), there are still no good 2.5" hard drives intended for DVR use. I'm going to proceed w/the 3.5" 4TB WD Red drive with the external Rosewill enclosure. Will take a few weeks to get this set up...
     
  13. OmeneX

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    This is true. But now it makes me curious what TiVo is using in their new announced Bolt+. It is a 2.5 HDD 3TB, no? They were using the Western Digital 2.5 HDD A/V line. 500gb/1TB -- makes one interested in what they are using in the Bolt+.

    A wonder...
     
  14. aaronwt

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    Maybe WD has new drives coming out? And TiVo got early access to them?

    They already had 3TB 2.5" drives, just from the Blue line. So maybe WD is finally incorporating 3TB 2.5" drives in their A/V and Red line?
     
  15. OmeneX

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    This would be sweet! We will find out soon I hope. It would also then make more sense that the Bolt+ is higher priced due to a new A/V || Red style drive. Besides just being a *flagship* offering.
     
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  16. tivobw

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    Well, using ddrescue on my 2.5TB Seagate STDR4000100 didn't work. I will post updates to the saga in this thread...

    Bolt Drive for Upgrade
     
  17. Nov 3, 2016 #357 of 440
    aaronwt

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    I'm still using my two 4TB drives from OCtober 2015 in my Bolts. Because of all the issues people posted I never sold my Lifetime Roamio Pro last year. So I need to either extend my TiVo subscription on my Bolts, and sell my Romaio Pro. Or let my subscriptions expire and use my Roamio Pro instead of my Bolts.

    I really like the 8TB of storage between eight tuners with my Bolts vs the 5TB with six tuners in Roamio Pro. I've already run into conflicts this season with eight tuners on the Bolts. So I really don't want to go back to only six tuners. So I'm hoping they will offer me at least a little discount on a yearly subscription. I'm not too keen on the $150 a year subscription for each unit. But I would also like to see how long these 4TB drives actually last. But so far they have been rock solid.
     
  18. Nov 3, 2016 #358 of 440
    Kremlar

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    Mine is still good here as well. Was actually 100% full last night.
     
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  19. Nov 3, 2016 #359 of 440
    JOSHSKORN

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    Question for both you @aaronwt and @Kremlar.

    aaronwt, I know you Seagate drive is on the 001 Firmware, as you've stated. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Kremlar, does your Seagate drive have the same firmware? What I'm thinking is, buy that drive during certain manufactured dates or forget it. I tried with the 004 firmware and I think I basically now have a dead drive. I haven't had much of an urge to plug my drive back into the original housing and try it out, but I'm convinced it's dead anyway. I think the combination of the newer drive firmware and the newer TiVo software somehow ruined it.
     
  20. Nov 4, 2016 #360 of 440
    Kremlar

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    I checked my pics, and yes mine is firmware 0001. It's certainly a good theory that the firmware version changed something affecting use on a TiVo. For all we know newer firmware versions could work well once again.

    If my drive died I would try to locate and use another 4TB drive.
     

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