4 Lights Flashing on Bolt

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by JOSHSKORN, May 14, 2016.

  1. tstack709

    tstack709 New Member

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    Woke up to 4 Flashing Lights this morning with my Bolt I purchased back in March 2017. I unplugged for an hour but came right back. What should I do?
     
  2. Jimbo687

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    Western Digital Comes Clean, Shares Which Hard Drives Use SMR - ExtremeTech
    Good article on which WD drives are CMR or SMR. I purchased a new WD 8TB (WD80EFAX) and it should be a CMR drive hopefully. Thanks for post above as was not aware about the whole CMR vs SMR and impact for Tivo hard drive upgrade options.
     
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  3. UCLABB

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    Replace the drive.
     
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  4. JOSHSKORN

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    Call TiVo and get a replacement if they'll honor it. Might charge you $40--$80.

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  5. tommage1

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    Well since a bit over 3 years with the new continual care program it would probably be $199 plus shipping both ways, plus tax. Assuming it was bought new and has never been exchanged. Should get Edge as replacement as they don't have anything else to send out anymore, at least last I heard. Model of failing Bolt not mentioned, what they send will depend on model of failed device (probably cable Edge for cable or cable/OTA Bolt, maybe OTA Edge if OTA only Bolt.)

    Or replace drive. Even before that try AC adapter as they can go PARTIALLY bad, power enough for lights but not enough to boot drive. Most likely drive though.
     
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  6. JOSHSKORN

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    If you bought the lifetime service just see about getting a replacement from TiVo. Then if that's not an option then try the hard drive route. If I were you, I'd get a backup power supply UPS. For me, with the exception of the first time trying to replace the hard drive which went bad, my 4 flashing lights always occurred after power outages.

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  7. kpeters59

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    Capture a backup of your Onepasses and Channels List with KMTTG.

    You'd probably also do OK getting a Clone of your existing hard drive on to a new hard drive.

    -KP
     
  8. tstack709

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    I have the Lifetime with Tivo Bolt+ 3TB ModelTCD849300 Made in Mexico 20 Sep 16. Would have thought it would last longer.
     
  9. tommage1

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    Good article but now out of date. Because of the new naming convention, Red and Red Plus. For now the only SMR drives are the 2-6TB EFAX. So for now with the new naming the only "Reds" are those 4 models. The rest will be sold as "Red Plus", including the larger capacity EFAX. Red Pro has not changed.
     
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  10. tommage1

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    You've done better than a large number of customers with that model, a lot better than many. Over 3.5 years (from your actual purchase date?) Now need to decide if try an exchange or replacing drive. I myself strictly use 3.5" CMR drives, Sata to Sata (ie no Esata). With a Bolt would have to be external. That's just me though, other options available, some better than others.
     
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  11. Rawson819

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    Backup wasn’t maybe the best term, as I was thinking more of a standby drive that I have on hand if (when?) the active one fails. So at the moment, I figured I would research which drive (or drive and enclosure) to get, then purchase and deploy, knowing I had the original factory drive to quickly put back into service when needed.

    Based on what I’ve read thus far, I was leaning towards a WD Purple drive, wanting to avoid getting the wrong Red and a Rosewill enclosure; however, I’m totally open to other suggestions if you or others have some. Thanks!
     
  12. tommage1

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    Purple is what I recommend if you want WD. Even Weaknees uses purples in at least some of their upgrades. Enclosures, well depends on how you are planning to hookup. I like Sata to Sata, direct from motherboard to Sata data connection on the drive. Some go Sata off motherboard to an Esata connection on the enclosure. However with that you are going through some electronics in the Esata port and not all work. So not all enclosures will work. This is what I did. It works with TE3 and TE4. As far as the Bolt or Edge are concerned it's the same as an internal 2.5, going Sata off motherboard to Sata on drive itself. for the Edge slightly different since they have a one piece Sata connection on the motherboard, there are threads here that show how to go Sata to Sata on an Edge.

    TE4 Bolt upgrade with external drive
     
  13. tstack709

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    I plugged my Tivo Bolt+ back in and still getting the 4 flashing lights but the Fan still works and spins so does this mean definitely Hard Drive Failure and not Power cord???
     
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  14. Player1138

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    Same exact thing happened to me today. Called support and they told me to call another 888 number for technical assistance. They are currently closed.

    Is hard drive replacement still possible on these things. If so any threads on what drives to get and how to get the software on it?

    my concern is these use old hard drives that will be hard to find. I am comfortable replacing the hard drive but no clue on how to get the software on it to make it work.

    thanks.
     
  15. Player1138

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    So after some research I think I know how to replace the drive. Could someone maybe confirm. I would appreciate it.

    I am looking at this drive as I can just go pick it up
    WD Mainstream 1TB Internal Hard Drive For Laptops 8GB Cache SATA300 - Office Depo
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    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-blu...-ramp-load-technology/6220725.p?skuId=6220725

    1tb is plenty.

    seems like the steps are replace hard drive. Put back together. Plug TiVo box in and in theory it should do everything it needs to do to the hard drive to get the UI working
     
  16. tommage1

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    Pretty sure those are SMR drives. Some SMR work, some do not. CMR recommended. If 1TB is plenty for you and you want to go with Best Buy this 2.5 drive is CMR.

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-red...-drive-oem-bare-drive/1765078.p?skuId=1765078

    There are very few CURRENT model 2.5" CMR drives available of any capacity over 500GB. Could end up being called "Red" or "Red Plus" due to WD changing it's naming policy for the Red line but this model number (WD10JFCX) IS CMR either way.
     
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  17. aaronwt

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    My 2TB refurb Toshiba MQ03ABB200 supposedly has a three year warranty from Toshiba. It was sealed and looked like new and had a 2019 manufacture date on it. I'm guessing it came directly from Toshiba? The SMART values were like every new drive I've purchased.

    I got it from Amazon and GoHardDrive for $58.50. I guess time will tell how well it does in my Bolt. I used MFSTools to copy my old drive to the new one on Saturday. That Bolt gets a lot of use and is recording around twenty hours a day, 365 days a year.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J27MBWD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
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  18. tommage1

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    So they are back in stock again. Hit and miss with that. At this price if this was my drive of choice I'd grab 2-3 at this price. Before gone completely/forever, it is a discontinued drive.

    As for original poster, they wanted to buy local (Best Buy) to keep it simple. And mentioned 1TB was plenty. Which is why I recommended the WD10JFCX.
     
  19. aaronwt

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    Yes, the WD10JFCX was going to be my choice if I went with a 1TB. But the 1TB I had in my Bolt, from a launch PS4 Pro, was not large enough. Once football started I was getting shows deleted too quickly. So 2TB should be a sweet spot for me. My other option would have been an external drive. But I figured that would be a last resort for me. If I couldn't find any CMR 2.5" drives.

    So far my temperatures with the 2TB Toshiba have been between 48C and 55C. And it only hit 55C when I was testing streaming to a web browser.
     

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