4 Lights Flashing on Bolt

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  1. Sep 1, 2017 #261 of 598
    BobCamp1

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    "197 - Current Pending Errors Count" means you have 20 sectors that are waiting to be remapped and marked as "bad." For a 3 TB hard drive, that's not horrible but it's not great. If that had continue to increase, it would be a sign that the drive was dying.

    Note that SMART isn't, so if it's detecting errors that's never a good sign.
     
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  2. Sep 1, 2017 #262 of 598
    CaseyJ

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    If you've connected any other drive to the TiVo after this one, all shows (except the deleted ones, how convenient) are lost. I think season passes and channels are also lost. If you haven't and can get it to boot one more time (though that seems unlikely) check out KMTTG. You can backup and restore your season passes and channels. It also can copy your shows to a computer. It's a very powerful tool. I use it to auto skip comercials with no button pushes. There's a lot of info about it on here.
     
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  3. Sep 1, 2017 #263 of 598
    BobCamp1

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    The only problem is the number of unreadable sectors. But it's a critical one. If they all happened in the past 2-3 weeks, panic. If you get one every few months or so it's usually not a huge deal unless it happens in a critical spot.
     
  4. Sep 1, 2017 #264 of 598
    fcfc2

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    You might download HD Tune, it's free, and run that on the Toshiba drive, it can tell you if you have lost sectors but takes a while.
     
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  5. Sep 3, 2017 #265 of 598
    sastexan

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    Thanks to all for the responses. I downloaded HDTunePro to test the drive as suggested, with a more dire result than what CrystalDiskInfo gave me. See below. I think this is a death sentence so I might as well hook up the original drive so at least we can watch regular broadcast and the streaming options, then over this week, get another drive and buy an enclosure to set up next weekend.

    Toshiba HDD stats1.png Toshiba HDD stats2.png Toshiba HDD stats3.png
     
  6. Sep 4, 2017 #266 of 598
    CaseyJ

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    A new hard drive in an external enclosure is certainly an option. In fact that is what I set up a month ago. Today, however, I would choose a different solution. There is a new version of KMTTG that will cut comercials using Skipmode points as it auto transfers shows to a pc and re-encodes as .mpg files. I'd still have a drive in an external enclosure but I'd connect it to the pc, auto transfer nightly, and watch them via Plex (running on the same 7 year old laptop as KMTTG). I'd use the Bolt for live TV, programs recorded the same day, set up one passes, and even for the Plex client.
    I think the external drive will get less wear, can be easily expanded by adding another drive, and could be setup for auto backup. Additionally, the files can be played on any device (pc, Firestick, Roku, etc) so no need for Minis.
    A couple of caveats, first I'm OTA only, no cable. So all of my programs can be copied. If you record a lot of cable programs, this may not be the way to go. Second, KMTTG will require some setup to get the Skipmode points, do the transfers, and work well with Plex.
    Now that I've written this, I'd really like to to have this set up. I've done virtually all of the steps individually, but not in an automated fashion.
     
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  7. Sep 4, 2017 #267 of 598
    sastexan

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    Good news for once! After putting the original 500GB drive back in the Bolt, and having it connect (twice), I saw that all the OnePasses are listed but yet the TiVo is not recognizing them to be valid and I cannot edit them. HOWEVER, I just went to TiVo Online and all those OnePasses are listed and I am able to quickly click on them and resave them - so I can restore them all quickly. Hope this helps anyone else stymied by a dead drive.
     
  8. Sep 4, 2017 #268 of 598
    aaronwt

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    I just downloaded HD Tune Pro to check out my 4TB seagate drive. But on my way carrying it over to the PC I dropped it and it hit the corner of a wire shelf. It doesn't look like there is any damage but I will never know if that dropped caused an issue or if my Drive just died in the Bolt. Because all it does is spin up and make a bunch of clicking sounds, and then spins down. So the drive either did this in my Bolt or from the fall.

    Hopefully my other 4TB drive continues to work for a while. But just in case I will need to make some changes. And make sure everything is backed up to KMTTG regularly. Well at least from the channels that allow a transfer.

    Not sure if it's even worth me getting a larger hard drive. I have four of the 500 GB AV drives that originally came in the Bolts. So I might was well use them. I put one in the Bolt that had the dead 4TB drive and for my news programs that works well. Since those One Passes are only set to keep two copies.
     
  9. Sep 5, 2017 #269 of 598
    ClaytonK

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    I replaced our 500gb Bolt hard drive with a 2tb Seagate drive (ST2000LM007) that worked fine for several months. After returning from a long vacation we have the four lights flashing. Putting in the original drive the Bolt works fine. And I've accepted that we are starting from scratch. What I don't understand is why the 2tb drive still won't work in the Bolt. I've tried formatting it on my computer (MBR, FAT32) and it works fine as a hard drive on my computer. But returning it to the Bolt I still get four flashing lights. Did it somehow become incompatible with my Bolt? Is there something I can do to make it work again, rather than settling for 500gb?
    Thanks for insight.
     
  10. Sep 5, 2017 #270 of 598
    aaronwt

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    Those Seagates also use SMR. Maybe that is part of it? I had hoped I could continue to use my 4TB with a PC or XBox. But I guess i need to trash it.
     
  11. Sep 5, 2017 #271 of 598
    TydalForce

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    Stick it in a computer, use your OS tools to delete the partitions / partition table (or just write zeroes to the device) and stick it back in your TiVo.
    sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=8m
    (WARNING: Verify device ID first; don't just copy paste) -- let that run for like, a minute, Ctrl-C to cancel, bam. Zeroed the partition table.

    I have a WD WD20NPVZ (Blue, 2TB) in there now. I JUST started getting the weird behavior that always precedes the 4-lights-flashing. Dammit.
     
  12. Sep 5, 2017 #272 of 598
    HerronScott

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    What weird behavior is that? Curious since I was going to use that drive in the Bolt I got my son to try and stay with the family they are using for the Bolt+.

    Scott
     
  13. Sep 6, 2017 #273 of 598
    sastexan

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    Nope; it is weird. All the old OnePasses are listed but not recognized as valid so the TiVo will not record on them. And if I create another OnePass from the original, that too is listed and ignored by the TiVo.
     
  14. Sep 6, 2017 #274 of 598
    TydalForce

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    Random freezes during playback of recorded video. Poor performance navigating the UI. Soon this will start randomly rebooting. General "this ain't right" stuff.
    I had a Toshiba 3TB MQ03ABB300 in their first; after all the reports of similar problems I pulled it and tried this WD... and now it's starting. SMDH
     
  15. Sep 6, 2017 #275 of 598
    aaronwt

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    I never saw any issues with my 4TB drive prior to getting the four flashing lights. It was working great and then one day I had the flashing lights. And then I rebooted it and it was still working fine until a few hours later when the flashing lights happened agqin. Then it wouldn't boot again.

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  16. Sep 9, 2017 #276 of 598
    slicer

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    I have the Toshiba MQ03ABB300 as well. I'm hard pressed to believe it's a coincidence that all our drives "failed" around the same time after previously working without issue. I'm more inclined to believe there is something in this new software that the drives don't like. I think I'll just live with stock 500 GB. Way less capacity but I don't want to have to worry that the next update will bring back the 4 flashing lights. If I struggle enough with the 500 GB then I'll consider upgrading to the Bolt+.
     
  17. shwru980r

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    I would think you could move up to a 3TB internal drive and be safe since the Bolt+ is shipped with a 3TB drive.
     
  18. slicer

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    The Toshiba drive I am referencing is 3 TB.
     
  19. shwru980r

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    Did you format the drive on a PC or just let the Bolt format the drive? My internal 3TB Seagate ST3000LM016 survived the update. I just put the drive in and let the Bolt format it.
     
  20. slicer

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    I went direct into the Bolt and let it format it.
     

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