4 Lights Flashing on Bolt

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  1. slicer

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    I too have a Toshiba MQ03ABB300 that I've been using in a new Bolt since May. Both the Bolt and the drive were brand new. I am getting the 4 flashing lights. In the meantime I am back to the stock 500GB until I decide what to do next. I did not run MFSR, perhaps that will be my next step.
     
  2. fcfc2

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    Hi, I am unaware of any Toshiba hard drive utility software, but you can try running something called HD Tune, it's free, it will run and extended test on it, if it passes, then I would do the MSRF on it but I would delete all partions and volumes on it first to make it a "bare" drive again, just in case there is some hidden info being kept on the drives from Tivo, you will be losing all your recordings anyway. Might as well give yourself the best odds you can. If the drive indicates it has a bunch of bad sectors though....well it might be ordinary "infant" death.
     
  3. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    I installed a 3TB Seagate ST3000LM016 in my bolt a month ago, but I just let the Bolt format the drive. No issues as of yet and Amazon has a couple positive reviews for using this drive in a Bolt. On person reported back a few times that the drive was still working 8 months after it was installed.
     
  4. Lenarro

    Lenarro USSB Forever!

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    I too just had the four blinking lights debacle this morning. Research led me to this thread, but I see no clear answer. I have a Bolt with a four TB drive and a Tivo Mini connected, no problems for about a year. Just got an update from Tivo yesterday or so, but that may just be a coincidence. This morning I unplugged the Tivo Mini for a minute. When I plugged it back in, boom went the Tivo. Grey static on screen and four blinking lights. Tried the unplugging route to no avail. I disconnected the Mini again and the Bolt has been working fine all day. I've spent the day switching from Frontier Fios to Spectrum, it worked on both systems just fine. When I'm done with the cable switch, channel setup, and redoing a bunch of wifi passwords, I will plug in the Mini again and see what happens. Maybe tomorrow, maybe later in the week. I'll let you know what happens. It's clearly a Tivo Mini problem for me.
     
  5. JOSHSKORN

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    I gave up on the whole thing and ended up getting a Bolt+ and didn't touch it. It's been working fine for me.

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  6. tivobw

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    FYI, that's what I decided to do with my Rosewill enclosure - leaving it running with the back panel off.

    I bought a 40" SATA cable off Amazon, which I am connecting from the SATA connection on the Tivo, through a hole I drilled in the case, directly into the SATA connection on the hard drive while it's in the enclosure.

    Everything is working fine, and the cable was a good deal at less than $7 shipped. The temperature display on the Rosewill seems to be about the same temperature as with the back panel on, typically around 28 degrees C.

    By the way, 40" was JUUUUUUUUUUST long enough to be able to keep the Tivo on the top shelf of our living room entertainment center, and still be able to route the SATA cable down to the bottom storage area (where the Rosewill hard drive enclosure is located). I have a couple of inches of cable to play with, but not much! :)

    I'm happy this is working again, but very annoyed at Tivo for breaking the SATA->eSATA connection with the latest update. Booo!
     
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  7. bilj65

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    I wanted to be able to easily "disconnect" the Rosewill RX304 from the TiVo so I got a 12" SATA extension cable and routed it out the back panel of the RX304. Cutting a notch was really easy with wire cutters. I'm up and running again. See my pictures. The blue cable coming out ungracefully from the Bolt is a regular SATA cable from a PC with a right angle connector on the Bolt motherboard.
    Just a thought... If eSATA enclosures no longer work then you could use any enclosure (even a cheapie USB 2.0 type) since all you are using it for is power and a fan for the drive.
     

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  8. Lenarro

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  9. aaronwt

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    Well my one Bolt finally gave up the Ghost. It had been eleven days since the four flashing lights happened. But then it happened again this evening and then again tonight. And then that was it. It wouldn't boot back up. This 4TB Bolt had been running pretty much for over 22 months. For a minimum of 20 hours a days and using multiple tuners during most of that time each day.

    So my other 4TB Bolt is only used around 20% as much. So I'm hoping that my other 4TB Bolt will be fine since the drive is used much, much less. So far I've seen no issues with it.

    So for now I put the 1TB drive, that came out of my PS4 Pro, into the four flashing light Bolt. Fortunately this Bolt is only used for news and reality programs. So anything lost is not a big deal since I only watch a fraction of whatever is recorded.
     
  10. JOSHSKORN

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    So, the Bolt that had the 4 flashing lights, were you able to recover the device when putting in the 1TB HDD?
     
  11. aaronwt

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    Yes. The Bolt has been working fine, so far, since I put the 1TB drive in around 1AM.

    When I installed the 1TB drive in the Bolt, it installed 20.7.2 RC24 on the drive.

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  12. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    The TiVo OS is installed in flash and not on the hard drive for the Roamio and Bolt.

    Scott
     
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  13. FreydNot

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    I know what you are saying but I had the same experience. My 4TB WD started flashing 4 LEDs so I installed the stock 500GB drive and powered up. The first screens I saw were something along the lines of "Applying update, this may take a while". I don't know if the new Tivo's hold two system partitions any more, but it sure had that old Tivo Series2 / HD feel.

    This would go along with the theory that something about the system update process broke the drive in the middle of the OS updating.
     
  14. slicer

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    So it's now pretty apparent that several different drives, previously thought to be safe/compatible, are now experiencing issues after latest software update. I am inclined to either (A) stick my my stock 500GB and rest assured that it is unlikely to stop working, or (B) just upgrade to a Bolt+ and be done with it.

    Or, is it possible to just buy whatever drive is in the Bolt+?

    I love the idea of a 3TB drive but if I know in the back of my head it could crap out at any point, then it's just not worth it.
     
  15. aaronwt

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    I ended up taking out the 1TB Toshiba Drive that came from my PS4 Pro. When writing multiple streams to the drive it would make a relatively loud noise every few seconds. The Seagate 4TB drive is very quiet in comparison. So I ended up putting the 500 WD AV drive, that came with the Bolt, back in it. After running mfsr on it.

    I'll leave the 500GB drive in for awhile and see how the smaller storage holds up. I did start from scratch so I no longer have 100+ One Passes on it. So if nothing else this got me to clean up a bunch of things. Since I decided not to load my One Pass backups from KMTTG.
     
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  16. sastexan

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    My Bolt went down about a week and a half ago (I was out of town so not sure what day it went down). Flashing 4 lights and leaving the bolt unplugged for a day failed to revive it. I replaced the original 500GB drive with the Toshiba MQ03ABB300 back in January and it has been working great up until now. I yanked the drive and did a S.M.A.R.T. analysis on it using HDDScan and got back two errors - "197 - Current Pending Errors Count" of 20, and "199 - UltraDMA CRC Errors" of 1. Everything else seems to work ok.

    Is this salvageable? And even if I figure out how to run MFS Tools on my windows 10 machine, and I copy everything over, will the data have integrity if I copy it back over to my original 500 GB drive (just the season passes and setup - I don't need the shows)?

    Thanks!
     
  17. FreydNot

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    I have not seen a single person who got the 4 flashing LEDs problem who was able to salvage their stored shows. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
     
  18. FreydNot

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    I let StableBit Scanner do a full scan of the 4TB 2.5" WD drive that Tivo rejected and it came up with a lot of physical problems. See the attached screenshots for details.

    I've installed a 4TB 3.5" WD Blue drive in an enclosure with a since SATA to SATA cable and all is well again.
     

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    aaronwt

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    I'll need to check my 4TB seagate out sometime and see what it shows from diagnostics. Hopefully the 4TB drive in my other Bolt continues to last. Since it wasn't used anywhere near as much as the one that got the four flashing lights.

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    guykuo

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    I have not seen a single person who got the 4 flashing LEDs problem who was able to salvage their stored shows. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.​

    If this was due to the recent software update not liking ESATA connected hack drives, then you can recover.
    If it is due to a dead internal drive, then you are probably toast.

    Mine did the 4 flashing lights with the software update. I was able to fully recover with all season passes and recordings intact.
    THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO NOT CONNECT ANOTHER DRIVE TO YOUR BOLT. Do not connect your original drive. Do not connect any other drive.

    Simply power down and reconnect your existing external drive via a direct SATA cable (no ESATA bridge board)
     
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