4 Lights Flashing on Bolt

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by JOSHSKORN, May 14, 2016.

  1. JOSHSKORN

    JOSHSKORN Member

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    This post is more in reference to the drive, itself. Instead of replacing the stock drive, would this drive work in the existing ESATA port?

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  2. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    Any links? I paid about $375 for mine, plus tax and shipping.
     
  3. JCN

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    JCN

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    Just a heads received mine and opened today. WD80EFZX factory sealed box. Build date 10-AUG-2016. $265 free ship no tax.
     
  5. JohnnyM

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    This sounds interesting. This goes to overall power loading.

    I am using a small lap top cooler that is USB powered and it might be just enough to put the power supply over the edge.
     
  6. JOSHSKORN

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    I am editing the OP in an attempt to help others before attempting to upgrade the drive. If you have experienced the 4 Flashing Lights, please post your hard drive's model number and I'll add yours to the list.
     
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    johnfarmer55

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    Well, it happened to me as well. Replaced the 500gb with the 4tb seagate FW 0002. Worked great for 6 months then I started getting the 4 lights. The only way I seem to be able to get it to work after the blinking lights is to pull the power, remove the cable card, then power up again. once it loads I insert the card again and all is well for a few days before it does it again. I'm thinking of going with the 2tb drive since I've never gone above 30% capacity on the 4tb. Do all seagate drives have issues or just the 4tb?
     
  8. Jan 9, 2017 #188 of 516
    JOSHSKORN

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    I don't think we know for sure if other drives may work, but based on your post, I think it's safe to say that the ONLY firmware version for the Seagate that will work is 0001.

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  9. aaronwt

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    Yes my two 4TB firmware 0001 drives are still humming along. And they have been used extensively since October 2015. I just hope they continue to have no issues.
     
  10. Bradl001

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    I just got the flashing lights today on a 4 month old original TiVo Bolt. It still has the original 500 GB drive.
     
  11. scht99

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    I got 4 flashing lights on a 3TB Seagate SMR drive (ST3000LM016). After about a year of use.

    Got 4 flashing lights on a 2TB Seagate ST2000LM007 after 1 month of use

    The crazy thing is both drives seem to be perfectly fine. They pass all tests. I have been using the 3TB on my xbox one for a month with no issue post TiVo crash.

    I am trying ddrescue on the 2TB to a new seagate ST2000LM015. I never tried ddrescue on the 3TB as I didn't have a spare 3TB and didn't want to buy another one.

    Anyone successfully recover from a 4 flashing light?

    I think the bolt must be really picky about HDDs. the tests I ran on the 3TB all passed, but some of the sectors read really really slow.
     
  12. JOSHSKORN

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    I haven't seen one person with the 4 flashing lights issue actually recover from it. I've also never heard of 2TB and 3TB models having the same problem. This must be a generic problem with all Seagate drives for this particular use, which it's not meant for, anyways.

    2TB and 3TB models might be similar to the 4RB model that we've all tried and have failed (unless your name is aaronwt). That is, I'm thinking later firmware revisions of the drive enable more SMR capabilities whereas Firmware version 0001 may not.

    Long story short, don't bother with your Seagate drives. Look around the forums for people that have connected a 3.5" drive externally by replacing the internal cable, and those that have done it, use the same drives they are using. You might not like all of this dirty work, nor the way the setup looks afterwards, though but it seems functional.

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  13. Bradl001

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    I had unplugged my TiVo Bolt for an hour or so (I was busy) then plugged it back in. It said something about being upgraded and all my stuff is still there on the 500 GB disk. I haven't recorded anything since but I can get to whatever was there.
     
  14. sfhub

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    I don't have experience with SMR drives, but with regular drives if it is reading a sector really slow, usually it is failing and getting remapped.
     
  15. scht99

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    ddrescue worked. When plugged back in with the cloned drive I got a message about applying an upgrade, which succeeded and I am back in business.

    I don't think there is enough evidence pointing to anything to do with all Seagate drives. I do think my SMR drive (the 3TB is exactly the same as the 4TB, just 1TB less) got old. I do think there is enough evidence that the SMR drives will prematurely fail. I would stay away from them for Bolt usage.

    If anyone else has problems with 2TB segate baracuda drives do let us all know but I think this was a fluke. Time will tell. Could also be a heat issue with my setup that kills drives. Impossible to know for sure.

    My Kids went a day without TV. oh the horror! At least they had video games and ipad...
     
  16. johnfarmer55

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    Well, I got a Seagate 2tb drive ST2000LM003 FW:2bc10009 that I will be using to replace the 4tb drive today. I'll keep good notes and hopefully it will work. I'm glad I used Archivo to keep the SWMBO's shows!
     
  17. JOSHSKORN

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    Hopefully it stays but I have a feeling it may fail in a couple days, maybe a week or so. That's what mine did. I never figured out if it's due to just being overworked after a certain amount of time or if it arbitrarily died at a certain percentage full. I don't think I got more than 20% full before it died again. Good luck.

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  18. scht99

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    By ddrescue I meant I put in a newly cloned brand new drive. The old drive had to be bad in some way since it worked with the new drive. If it fails again then I suspect its not HDD related, but I will be surprised if it isn't just a bad drive. I returned the old failed drive as it was still in the return window.

    So I was able to save my season passes and recording. I have them all backed up with kmttg so its not a big deal, but the family gets cranky when TV is down for any amount of time.
     
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    Scrumpy!

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    Sorry to say that my unmodified 1 TB bolt failed (4 flashing lights) on week 14. Have you read the 1, 2, and 3 star reviews on Amazon? I wish I had before I bought my Bolt. Most of those people had the same problem I have now (19% of reviewers). I don't know whether to throw it out and find every forum I can to warn others about the shoddy workmanship or engineering that went into this thing or pay to have it replaced. I'm glad I didn't pay the year in advance subscription and really glad I didn't fall for the "lifetime" subscription scam.
     
  20. Feb 2, 2017 #200 of 516
    atmuscarella

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    It is still under warranty from TiVo and should only cost you $50 to get a warranty replacement.
     

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