3 Cheers for TiVo! They Got The New Remote Right!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Joe3, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

    Oct 20, 2007
    MN, greater...


    The majority of U.S. households.
  2. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

    Aug 13, 2015
    @justen_m What button would you have put in place of Netflix?
    I don't use the Enter button, and the Skip button is redundant. But I'm not upset because I know lots of other people might use them.
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2019
  3. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    2-4 user-configurable learning buttons. :)
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  4. CloudAtlas

    CloudAtlas Bryan

    Oct 29, 2013
    New York, NY
    They raised the price in 2018. You mentioned that previously. I get that the value wasn’t there for you anymore. I asked because as a medium-sized Netflix shareholder I was genuinely interested.

    I know I just can’t get myself to pay $5.95 for an iTunes movie rental because it just feels like a waste of money. Yet back in the Blockbuster days I was paying close to $5 and rented all the time. The value I guess is no longer there.

    This would have more impact if you could afford Netflix. … Kidding. I didn’t mean to imply before that you were seriously using someone else’s credentials to watch Netflix and save money towards an EDGE.

    But I live 2 blocks from Central Park so if you can buy n’ sell me more power to you. There are thousands in my neighborhood pulling down 7 figures yearly who can buy n’ sell me. I hope to one day marry one of them.

    Wow you really are stingy. :) While good for you it explains how impossible it is for TiVO to make money off of some techies which I assume is their base.
  5. wizwor

    wizwor Guest

    Dec 17, 2013


    I think I made that clear. Many times. Netflix moved from a source of content I was interested in to a source of content I was less interested in while raising prices. At the same time, competitors joined in the game. One of the consequences of disc rentals and streaming was that optical media became much less expensive. I own every movie and television show I would watch more than twice on optical media.

    On demand media is not what I want. I prefer to fall asleep watching television or having something on as background noise as I do other things. I always felt Netflix could have improved by implementing playlists -- the way youtube plays something similar to what you looked for. One of the things I like about the Recast is that I can start watching a series and it will play all episodes. I often fall asleep to NYPD Blue, for instance.

    Me too. But a movie cost a lot more than $5 back then, right? It was a relative bargain. We have more options now. If you like Netflix original programming, then it might work for you. If you are looking for a good movie, not so much.

    Unfortunately a lot of the nuances of conversation are lost in bulletin boards. I am not thrifty because I cannot afford to be extravagant. I simply want value for my money. You would appreciate that if you were in my will.

    I spend a LOT of time in New York. I LOVE New York. I think you have the very best park system in the country. I love having a PHD guide me through a colonial fort. I have spent a lot of time in Manhattan. Just a couple years back, I spend a long weekend in a half million dollar apartment in Manhattan while visiting the WTC Museum, the Intrepid, and a submarine (Growler?). We did Chinatown and all the touristy things. I was mostly stuck by the piles of trash on the sidewalks on a weekend. Someone even threw a bag of trash out their window. A truly unpleasant place to be in February. The apartment was one bedroom, a half a kitchen, a small bathroom, and a half a living room. You controlled the temperature by opening and closing the window.

    About ten years ago, I spent a week in Manhattan for NAB. I stayed right in the hotel where the show was. I remember stepping out of the building to check out a Star Wars event and being washed over by the plasma screens of Times Square. I ate lunch each day at some deli off a side street and walked in Central Park each night. I even dined at Tavern On The Green. From there I went to Schenectady. New Your City is part of New Jersey. Ten minutes north looks just like New Hampshire.

    My opinion of NYC is that it is a nice place to visit, but I would not want to live there.

    I've spent nearly $10k on DVRs if you include PC projects, whole house DVRs, and set top DVRs. TiVo got about 15% of that if you include Minis. TiVo is a niche product. TiVo is a predator. They did not make their money off their customers. They made it off their competitors. I don't think I would choose to be in their business.

    This topic is about the TiVo remote and our corner of it is about Netflix. This is probably a good time to remind you what you had to say about my separation from Netflix because we seem to be going nowhere...

    I didn't leave Netflix, Netflix left me. I have no brand loyalty, so, when a product is no longer of value to me, I move on. I think it is time for me to move on from this topic.
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  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    Looks nice. I don’t watch TV in the dark so not that useful to me though. (dark = Dan falling asleep :))
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  7. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

    Apr 18, 2002
    Fairfax, VA
    Netflix requires this of most hardware partners. No button, no integration.
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  8. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    I've never seen a Netflix button on an Apple TV remote.
  9. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

    Oct 20, 2007
    MN, greater...
    Keyword = most
  10. tenthplanet

    tenthplanet Well-Known Member

    Mar 5, 2004
    What I've always liked about the Tivo remote is can you run it without looking at it.:) Some people needs lights as well as complicated universal remotes, with windows, and menus and lots of buttons. I'm waiting for the thread where someone starts to complain about the battery life of the lighted remote :D it will happen :eek::eek:
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  11. snerd

    snerd Well-Known Member

    Jun 6, 2008
    Precisely why I hate the Vox remote layout. The useless (for me) Vox button is annoying enough, but moving the D button is really aggravating. Sure I could re-learn where the buttons are, but then I'm screwed going back to an older remote in the bedroom.
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  12. pldoolittle

    pldoolittle Tivo'ing since 2001

    May 2, 2002
    When it comes to a TV remote, less is more. The original TV remote I could operate incomplete Blackness without ever thinking about where the buttons were.

    The new remotes I have to feel around, sometimes look, and still get buttons wrong. Not a fan.
  13. rocket999

    rocket999 New Member

    Sep 29, 2019
    I've wondered that myself, and with the delay in getting the captions started, you don't know when it's safe to let up on that key.

    I also would like the select button to turn on quick play w/o having to first push the play button. What's the need for 2 keys when one would do. And if you accidentally turned on quick play, OMG, you might just have to push the button to turn it off.
  14. FubarJeb

    FubarJeb New Member

    Sep 27, 2016
    I wish they would bring back the TiVo Slide Pro remote. The full keyboard makes searching a lot easier.
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  15. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    I'm already there with my (lighted) Slide Pro Remote. But I just shut up and replace the batteries more often (having a bunch of inexpensive AA batteries around), as a factor of the nice benefit. :)
  16. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

    Aug 13, 2015
    So does voice and the phone app (full qwerty there too). I can say a phrase about 10x faster than I can type it on a slide pro. And neither of those costs $50 or has a ribbon cable that wears out after only a couple of years.
  17. TKnight206

    TKnight206 Active Member

    Oct 20, 2016
    Accidentally pressing captions with a simple toggle, it's a minor annoyance that can easily be rectified. However, with QuickMode, it could be distracting enough to justify an eight second replay. I will say this... options.

    Give us the option to use the A-C buttons without having to hold them down.
    TiVo Central > Settings & Messages > User Preferences is where I'd put it. In there, I'd add a new option to change A-C toggle duration.
    A-C toggle duration: 2 seconds / 1 second / Instant
    Also, an option for QuickMode.l
    QuickMode: Play-Select / Select
    Also, I'd like a way to remove the graphic for when SkipMode is available during a commercial, as sometimes it shows up in the show itself. (Maybe be much more annoying if someone were to watch the Super Bowl for the football itself as SkipMode skips to the commercials instead.)
    SkipMode graphic: Enabled / Disabled
  18. wizwor

    wizwor Guest

    Dec 17, 2013
    It DID happen: 3 Cheers for TiVo! They Got The New Remote Right!
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2019
  19. Sparky1234

    Sparky1234 Well-Known Member

    May 8, 2006
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    Sparky1234 Well-Known Member

    May 8, 2006

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