21.9.1.v3

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  1. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    You may want to preface his ID w/ the @ symbol to increase the odds of his noticing the post.
     
  2. hapster85

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    Tried restarting. No dice. Still no way to make changes stick.
     
  3. The Merg

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    Is anyone having an issue with the Slow Motion button not working for turning the PIP on and off when you have the PlayList or Guide up?

    Thanks,
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  4. krkaufman

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    You’ll see previous reports of issues, I believe, if you look for “Video Window” in place of “PIP.”
     
  5. The Merg

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    Thanks. Couldn’t remember what it is usually called.

    - Merg


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  6. tim_m

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    Was getting that too until i requested the update and it stopped doing that.
     
  7. Megamind

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    This is also supposed to turn off the background video on the Minis Home Screen. I'm told this will be fixed in a future update.
     
  8. exdishguy

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    Welcome to my universe. Yes, it is a bug. I believe
    Uh? It's an expression that meant both TE3 and TE4 have its problems. That means I was conceding that TE3 too has its problems. I just happen to think TE3 has less of them.
     
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  9. cwoody222

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    Did some further testing with CEC and Alexa on my Roamio Plus.

    My power button now puts the TiVo to standby when used to turn off my TV. I hadn't noticed this before, after the update, because I had my device lights off. I don't like this at all because it dumps the buffer. I have energy saver disabled. This behavior is new with the update.

    When I turn on the TV using the TiVo button, a single press turns on the TV and wakes the TiVo but does not change the input to the TiVo. A second TiVo button press is needed for that. CEC is, and has always been, enabled on my TV. I can't say before if input changing worked before the update since I usually leave my set on the TiVo input but others seem to indicate this is new, and a bug. If not new, it should work, that's how CEC is supposed to.

    From an off state, Alexa will turn on TV and TiVo when asked to watch a channel by name or number but will not go to the proper input.

    Alexa still works with changing channels by name or number when TV / TiVo are on. So this is fine.
     
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  10. cwoody222

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    It SORT of works now. If you press slow-mo it will hide/show the window on the NEXT menu screen you visit.
     
  11. cwoody222

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    Will they enable a video WINDOW (not background) on the Mini Home Screen? I really want my Mini to work like my Roamio does for the video window. And I'd like it to work consistently :) Even before the latest update, sometimes I'd get audio in the background when exiting live TV/recorded show.
     
  12. V7Goose

    V7Goose OTA ONLY and Loving It!

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    Just got the 21.9 update (signed up yesterday). My initial impression is that if they would just put back program transfers I would FINALLY be willing to accept Hydra. There are still a number of things in 21.9 I do not like, but I could now live with it. At least those STUPID comic book tile strips are gone (I KNOW how to read, so I do NOT need or want a comic book to replace my lists!!!!).

    Here are my initial observations of 21.9.1.V5:
    • I am REALLY happy to see the left side options screen is back in My Shows (instead of that really dumb sideways strip only visible at the very top). I do not use those options often, but it is great to see them and be able to access them with just a simple Left Arrow click at any time. ESPECIALLY when I want to go to another Device.

    • Even better, now that the Left Arrow goes to the Options list, I no longer get those intrusive nasty horrible unwanted tiles popping up on the left side when I hit the Left Arrow button.

    • And moving the cursor down or up on the list now ACTUALLY MOVES THE CURSOR instead of that dumb distraction of sliding the entire list up and down while leaving the cursor in one position!

    • (Edit: removed erroneous comment here about missing day/date on the main My Shows screen - all is shown as usual when "All Shows" is selected.)

    • I do not have any problems with the Power button putting the Bolt to sleep when I turn off the TV and Amp (I do not have CEC enabled on my test Bolt, but I do have high power savings enabled).

    • I have not tested autoskip yet - I do not want it; I do not trust it; I am very happy with pressing the CH+ button when I want to skip commercials. Of course that still works just fine. It is wonderful that it is optional.

    • My Mini seems to work just fine with 21.9 also - no performance problems as some people have reported. But I do wish it would release the tuner when the TiVo button is pressed (like it always used to do).
    I do wish they would put back the ability to see all the tuners together in a list (like Info does on TE3), and of course I still need the program transfer function returned. But this is the fist time I have seen any hope at all in Hydra being an acceptable UI for my TiVo boxes!
     
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  13. Megamind

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    That I didn't ask. But a window would be my preference as well.
     
  14. roperma

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    Do you mean disable the CEC setting on the television or the TiVo?
     
  15. Megamind

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    On the TiVo.
     
  16. roperma

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    Thanks! That, I don’t mind doing.
    I did not want the new software if it meant the power button would put TiVo into standby. I like having the buffer there when I turn on the tv.
     
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  17. Rkkeller

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    I received the update last night and someone should have pointed out the huge drastic changes to the "My Shows" section. I am still trying to figure it out and see where things are as it is so much different.

    Not saying its bad, just was kinda shocked when I saw it the first few times and wondering where is this and that.
     
  18. exdishguy

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    Awesome take. I completely agree across the board - my shows, auto-skip, etc. The last point about the tuners (and I'd add the favorites to the left as well) are just beyond silly to me. I hate the tiles and that I can't see all tuners in one list. A channel logo, show desc and a red icon to show if its being used to record is all that is needed. Hit the Info button if you want to explode into more detail.

    The favs is another debacle to me (left cursor I think). Instead of just channels here and using the stupid tiles, why not create a condensed list of channel logos AND let us include apps in this list. So if I want to launch Vudu, for instance, I can do so in two clicks (left then select if it were at the top of the favs list).

    I don't mind the CEC changes and putting my unit into standby when I turn off TV. I do think CEC is broken in some ways. I had issues with putting my TV on mute and then simply navigating in Hydra would unmute my TV. This should not happen. The TV should unmute when I press unmute - not with each key press as I try to navigate to a menu or through the grid guide.

    It would be a bonus if I could turn off animations as well. I do this in Windows as well so its just a personal preference. Just makes the UX feel snappier.

    The release is a nice improvement for Hydra but I'm still not quite there yet and have rolled back to TE3. Restoring Live Guide as an option, Tuner list and Fav list improvements, restore ability to transfer recordings between boxes (and yes I know I can do it on-line...I want to be able to do within the UX like I can in TE3) will get me back to TE4. Perhaps it will shake out next spring?
     
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  19. JolDC

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    Pointing out like the screen shots of the “new” (old) My Shows screen in the 7th post of this thread?
     
  20. lparsons21

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    Thanks for that. Somehow I either missed the post or it didn’t sink into this old brain.
    I submitted my 4 TSN’s yesterday and got the update on the first one. The other boxes don’t have it yet. Should I resubmit them with one TSN per request? Or just not worry about it since the other 3 are not used often?


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