20 Questions with Ira Bahr - TiVo's Chief Marketing Officer

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  1. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Yep, that's the definition of free lifetime on new hardware, doesn't matter that it was a transfer. Damn good deal for the S1 owners along with all the other spiffs.
     
  2. bkc56

    bkc56 Designated Grunt

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    OK, I guess it's a matter of semantics. Is a transfer of lifetime service to a new unit considered a NEW free one, or an EXISTING paid-for one. Given that it was Tivo who "broke" my Series 1, so my lifetime service had not expired, I treat it as a transfer.

    But one could argue it either way and be right.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Did they actually deactivate the lifetime on your S1?
     
  4. Puppy76

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    Does anyone have more info on this? I know they stopped providing regular TiVo Desktop, but thought they were just selling a more advanced version in it's place.

    As someone else on here mentioned, I watch probably at least half my shows on my PC. I HAVE to have that, and I have to be able to copy them to an external drive or whatnot so I can take them with me, and be able to use multiple players, as often one will have problems with a particular show, while another won't. (I switch between primarily VLC and the "Movies & TV" Windows 10 program mostly right now.)

    If that weren't available, I don't know that Tivo would really be viable for me...it would still have longer term storage than Hulu, but otherwise I can already watch Hulu in my home...although I guess really Hulu + CBS All Access ends up about the same cost (or more) than Tivo service, but still, with Tivo I'm left wondering when my hard drive is going to die...
     
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    You could stream them to the PC using a Stream, Roamio Pro, or Bolt.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    You can still download TiVo Desktop if you have the right link, but it's been removed from their site. They don't sell it, or even mention it anywhere. From what I heard it was developed by a 3rd party and they had some sort of falling out with that company. We (VideoReDo) actually contacted them and offered to take over development of it for them, but we never heard back. :(
     
  7. bkc56

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    That's what they said would happen although (a) I unplugged them both so they would continue to work until the guide data ran out and (b) I'm still waiting for my-account on tivo.com to be updated with the 2 new bolts and (I assume) the subscription status to change on the two that had the lifetime transferred.

    The letters of transfer I received with my bolts were very clear that the subscription would be transferred.

    And when I called to do the transfer they were VERY specific about what serial number I was transferring service from/to. They also confirmed (again) that the source S1's qualified for the transfer (because I have two other lifetime S1's that are not qualified).

    So yes, transferred but as yet unconfirmed. The S1's will never call in again (so the loss will never show up on the system information screen) but my-account should eventually confirm it.
     
  8. Seattle

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    Yes. One of my series ones now shows Status 1:New and the other one shows as Status 7:Never setup.

    They both were removed from my online account as well and the new bolts show as having "TiVo Lifetime Service".

    One of the series one TiVos had not been calling in and I was still able to get a lifetime transfer to a new Bolt.
     
  9. foghorn2

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    After the casting couch session:

    "Don't call us, we'll call you" :D
     
  10. CoxInPHX

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  11. Puppy76

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    Even if that worked flawlessly, it doesn't let me save stuff, doesn't work outside the home, and even if it did work outside the home wouldn't work without an impossibly expensive data plan of some sort.

    Thanks for the info! I had no idea it was by a third party. Thankfully on Windows it still works as of Windows 10, and the Bolt seems to be supported fine, but they really need a replacement. I don't need anything super fancy, just something that does what it does, shows the shows and lets me transfer them. Anything more than that is a bonus.

    You guys (VideoReDo) seem like you'd be able to do a better job than the company they used the first time!
     
  12. lpwcomp

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    There are several free third party apps that allow you to do this. kmttg, pyTivo, and archivo for example. It's even possible to download recordings using a browser.
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The part that can't easily be replaced is the DirectShow filter that allows you to play .tivo files in WMP or edit them in VideoReDo. I know that kmttg uses a newer open source decoder that's suppose to work better with TS files, but I think it still has problems with some files. The TiVo DS filter was 100% with TS files.
     
  14. HerronScott

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    You mean tivolibre right? As far as I know, fflewddur has fixed all the issues that were brought to his attention and done a lot of testing to insure the output is the same.

    Scott
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    In any case the problem for us is legal. The DMCA prevents us from using something like tivodcode/tivolibre in a commercial product. The only reason we're allowed to decode .tivo files is because TiVo included the decoder with their official software.
     
  16. bobwojo

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    So far my Series one boxes dial in and set the time using the connection test option. These are all on a Ethernet connection since the modems were destroyed by lightning.
     

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