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20.7.2.RC22 Update - OMG ugly

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by PCurry57, Jul 29, 2017.

  1. n8walker

    n8walker New Member

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    I do appreciate how they made VideoApps more accessible. Previously, they were at the bottom of the main screen and it was inconvenient having to scroll to the bottom.

    I like the new white bar in the daytime, improved visibility in sunlight. At night, however, it is quite bright. I wish we had the ability for custom color schemes or custom skins.

    I also noticed one minor bug with Video Providers, that it's displaying duplicate icons for Plex and OperaTV which were previously enabled before the upgrade. Both seem to open the latest application.


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  2. PCurry57

    PCurry57 Liberal Hippie Chick

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    Wow, you are persistent in attacking me. Your apology is accepted. Transferred to Tech Support

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  3. Lurker1

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    Hey, thanks for the photo. That is exactly what my TV looks like. Can you read the text in the highlight? It is hard for me to read any highlighted text.
     
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  4. n8walker

    n8walker New Member

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    It's connected via HDMI so the picture is crystal clear. My TV is near a window, combined with the brightness of the highlight so my phone was having trouble focusing when I took the photo.
     
  5. Lurker1

    Lurker1 Active Member

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    Maybe my eyes are having trouble focusing for the same reasons.
     
  6. randywalters

    randywalters AVS Old Timer

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    I'm not attacking you, just reminding you that a very knowledgeable TCF member reported that he does have Skip Mode on his 2-Tuner Premiere, and you seem to not believe him. It's possible that he was mistaken and i do think you should ask him directly. There may still be hope that we'll eventually get SM on our 2-Tuner Premieres, especially if he confirms that his 2T has it.

    I'd believe him before i'd ever believe a Tivo CSR. I guess i was kinda attacking Tivo CSRs in my previous post LOL.
     
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  7. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    The Replay TV DVRs had commercial skip functionality in 2000. And some models would skip the commercial automatically. I don't see how there could be any hardware limitation in the premiere that would prevent skip mode from functioning. It also appears that all the premieres have the same CPU and memory.

    CPU: Broadcom BCM7413 400MHZ dual core 1100 Dhrystone MIPS
    RAM: 512 MB

    If anything, I would think that a dual tuner premiere would have more cpu and memory capacity available than a 4 tuner premiere, because there are only 2 tuners to manage versus 4.
     
  8. sfhub

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    I think all models that had commercial advance could skip automatically from a software/CPU power perspective. If some models that did commercial advance didn't do auto commercial advance, it would have been disabled for legal (not technical) reasons.

    I remember the 5040 had a playback option/checkmark to skip commercials, which controlled whether it was on by default. There was also a dedicated commercial advance button on the remote. If Commercial Advance was "On" it would skip automatically (there was no choice). If you wanted to see the commercials, you would need to press the Commercial Advance button on the remote to turn skip "Off", otherwise skip forward or back would just jump over the commercial segment.

    So basically you had auto-commercial advance, or no commercial advance. There wasn't the option for manual commercial advance. If commercial advance was off and you enabled while in a commercial segment, it would immediately skip and further skips were automatic, so you could simulate manual commercial advance by enabling commercial advance, then immediately disabling it.
     
  9. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    how does a DVR know what/where a commercial is and how far to skip and when to stop
     
  10. sfhub

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    Different devices do it differently. Replay had some automated detection of some blanking, detected by the unit itself.

    TiVo has some people marking off index points, but those index points need to be synced up with your local recording. People who looked into have said that syncing up is done by examining CC data.
     
  11. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Note that you can *quickly* navigate (i.e. jump!) to the bottom of TiVo show listings (and many TiVo UI menus) using the Advance (30-second Skip) button on your remote. Once at the limit of the list/menu, repeated pressing of the button will jump between the bottom and top of the listiing/menu.

    I've grown fond enough of this navigation feature that I curse the TiVo developers when I encounter menu screens where it hasn't been implemented. And using the Advance button within "My Shows" is my preferred method of getting to our networked DVRs, streaming apps and the Recently Deleted Folder.

    p.s. Channel Down/Up also allow for quicker navigation, of course, but the Advance leap is essential for anyone with an extensive show listing.
     
  12. sfhub

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    Yes, that is super useful with the obstructive left column hidden.

    Since the number buttons no longer affect the sort order, I wish they would add a shortcut where 0-9 would get you to the top (0), bottom (9), and other #s some percentage of the way down in one's MyShow list.
     
  13. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Re: ReplayTVs...
    The ReplayTV remote's Right/Left navigation arrows allowed manually jumping to the next/previous commercial marker (tagging either the start of a commercial break or its end) -- similar to what's possible with TiVo's Channel Up/Down buttons. I can't say if this manual feature was there from the introduction of the ReplayTV Commercial Advance feature in late 2001 or not, but it's there (and I'd think it wrongheaded not to have included it from the get-go).

    I think the dedicated Commercial Advance button on the remote control, for toggling automatic Commercial Advance, was unique to the 5000 series model.

    That said, personally I never found the ReplayTV Commercial Advance markers reliable enough to trust, except for select shows -- unlike TiVo's implementation.
     
  14. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Yep, especially with the advent of OnePass where streaming shows can add to the volume of the "My Shows" listing, a multi-tap style jump navigation, similar to what the ReplayTV had, would be great. No reason to reinvent the wheel.
     
  15. sfhub

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    Reverse commerical advance easter egg was pretty cool to watch super bowl commercials only.

    I'd love to see T9 for search shows. I hardly ever use the number buttons there and it is already doing incremental matching so T9 isn't a big leap.
     
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    PCurry57

    PCurry57 Liberal Hippie Chick

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    One and Only One report on commercial SkipMode, many others with the two tuner 746 Premieres reporting NO SkipMode! Add that one person isn't chiming in to defend your position. Yup, I believe my personal experience and TiVo before I believe a singlular report that doesn't pass the empirical scientific data test.


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  17. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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    I confirm both my XL4 (758) and my 2-Tuner Premiere Upgraded 2TB (746) both got SkipMode w/ SW Vers. 20.7.2
     
  18. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    I believe you. But I don't use my Premiere enough to call support.
     
  19. kpeters59

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    Video or it didn't happen!

    Plus, I'd like to try it out...

    -KP
     
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  20. CoxInPHX

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    Do you really need a Video? or were you just being cute?
     

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