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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Rob Helmerichs, Jul 27, 2017.
Why is that? Is it buggy?
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Click on the item. You'll receive a prompt to exit or indicate you no longer have this box. Click on that and it's gone. Slight quirk is that sometimes after a restart (and before 20.7.1), the box would reappear after a restart. Networking has changed in some subtle ways with 20.7.1. I use the Premiere for storage and some testing. Like the way its guide is usually one day farther out than my Roamio guides. It's configured for OTA & cable, but no cable card.
So my Premiere still hasn't gotten the update. My Roamio got the RC22 over a week ago, but nothing new (is there even a RC24?). Neither box was signed up for the priority list.
Yes my base Roamio received RC 24 a few days back posted about here:20.7.2 has arrived!
I have RC 22 on two Roamios and RC24 on two Mini's, My other 2 Roamios and Mini have not upgraded yet
I don't have the update either. I'm not on the list. There does not seem to be any rhyme or reason as to how this is rolling out, based on what I'm reading here.
This may be related. I use a Mini and Roamio on 20.7.2.rc22 every day. I have noticed that there displays a BSC just before the video appears. I never use channel up or down, only the guide or Last, and only use the Mini for about an hour or so every day. But it may be related to your observation. The Mini is a v2 unit also. No MoCA. The BSC is barely visible but was not there before the update.
Hey Joe! I get both - sometimes the other box just completely disappears, sometimes it is showing with the exclamation point in front of it, and every now and then it actually shows up normally - for a short while. *sigh*
I've tried everything from unplugging each box to unplugging my router and powering everything up again. The bdrm box will show up on the living rm one (that has the 7.2 update), but only intermittently. Conversely, however, the LR box has not ceased to show up on the bdrm box at all (bdrm box still has 7.1).
Something is going on only in the living rm one since the moment it got the 7.2 update that has it only intermittently recognizing the other box, yet it makes connections just fine. Also, when I've tried transferring something to it from the other box it takes hours to do one 1hr HD show.
I was on Netflix the other day through the 7.2 box and didn't have any problems (finally finished current season OITNB. yay).
Some people have issues. But for me, I have RC24 on two Bolts and RC22 on one Bolt and I've had no issues with them. I am still waiting for my fourth Bolt to get the update. As well as my Roamios and Mini.
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That’s a lot of TiVo’s.
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I'd like to say I hope to duplicate your problem, but I'm not sure I would like that. However I have tools & tests plus a third box to use. Normally the Roamio that's the source for most of my networked viewed content is still waiting for the update, as is my Premiere. I guess we wait.
Wishing you the best! I guess my only hope is that if that other Bolt ever gets the update that they will go back to normal. The fact that the other one has continued to recognize the one with the update, without break, yet the one with the update only intermittently recognizes the one without the update only tells me that something with the update is the problem.
I wouldn't be so adamant about that if it weren't for the fact that before one of them got the update I had 100% perfect contact between boxes with fast (for a wireless network, IMO) transferring and flawless MRViewing.
I'm kind of holding out until the other one gets the 7.2 update to see if they go back to normal before even contemplating contacting Tivo. This is frustrating enough. I don't need to add to that by dealing with them.
LOL, what else would you expect aaron to say. He has the magic Tivos that almost never see issues.
Forgive me if this has already been tried, but have you switched the 2 Bolts between locations to see if the problem follows the Bolt or stays in the room? That could help eliminate the possibility that you really do have a network issue.
I'm not optimistic. My 20.7.2.rc22 unit is my "watching" unit. It's used about 16 hours daily. It feeds my Mini that I use daily and the Mini is on the same software.
You know when you call TiVo and say "wireless" they are going to hang up on you.
I've got to agree!
I know you said there is no network problem, but this sounds like a network problem You may have weak signal - interference or several other routers nearby using the same wifi channels that you are. When the channel is busy may be when you have problems. You may be configured right, but other devices/environment may be causing you problems. You could try this:
1. stretch ethernet cables around and connect everything on a wired network. (I realize you may not have long cables or ethernet ports to do this)
2. If you have an android, there's an app call Wifi Analyzer that can tell you your wifi signal strength, how many device are using which channels near you. You can set you router to use channel 1, 6 or 11 if one of those is more free. (not sure if Apple has a similar app)
Hope this helps.
Hi! I really appreciate your help. It just seems more than odd to me that my wireless network was perfectly fine, and all other devices (not that many) operate perfectly well. But since that one Tivo box got the update, IT is messed up.
I can't do an ethernet cable to wire devices, as there is just no way for me to do that throughout my house. As I state that, I do recognize that wired is the best way to go but, so far and my equipment isn't old at this point, I've never had problems with a wireless network in my house.
I just went into my router and for channel it is set at 'auto'. Wouldn't that be preferable? I don't really mess around inside the router a lot, as much of it is probably above my pay grade.
I guess I'm too much the logical thinker for stuff that is less than logical. But, right up to the minute that my living rm Tivo got that update, everything worked perfectly on my wireless network.
I do have an android phone, but no experience with apps (imagine that - I use my phone as a phone. hehe). But, seriously, I'll look at that, though. Wireless signal strength has never been a problem. All I have on the network is 2 Tivos, 2 Rokus, and at this time this one laptop. (I turn off and unplug laptops when not in use and only use one at a time). Oh, forgot about my phone. I was just looking at 'devices' in the router to make sure nothing is there that I don't recognize.
That hasn't changed since this problem started.
What model router? But I don't think it's the network unless you or someone close has changed something. It's the one thing you can't control with wireless: the environment. Last year I had to give away a TV since it was causing my cable modem to go off-line.
BTW, when you configured your TiVo units, you were asked which SSID to use. That has nothing to do with a channel selection, but if you had a lot of choices, you have a lot of nearby routers.