20.5.6 Release Notes (Roamio)

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. Feb 5, 2016 #641 of 663
    jonw747

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    I've used simultaneous output with DirecTv and Verizon FIOS to feed other devices. Sounds to me like TiVo's customer support is just being lazy. If a s/w change really changed how this works, they should address it.

    Perhaps HDCP is getting confused? If so, rebooting the TiVo with the HDMI connected TV turned ON may or may not help. Getting one of those HDMI splitters that handles negotiating the HDCP may also help.
     
  2. Feb 5, 2016 #642 of 663
    hytekjosh

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    My comment was regarding the use of a modulator not being supported. Tivo previously disabled (unknown of intentional or bug) simultaneous output via an update then later re-enabled (fixed) it. I have no problems with my hardware. More times than not, its a problem with the end users devices (TVs, HDMI switches, etc) and handshakes. Are folks all reporting that simultaneous outputs are again disabled by this latest update?
     
  3. Feb 5, 2016 #643 of 663
    jonw747

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    It's understandable that TiVo won't support his RF modulator, but he can connect a TV up directly via the composite outputs to get that out of the loop. Unless the modulator is broken, it shouldn't be doing anything that would cause the TiVo to fail.

    They should have just asked him to do that, rather than blow him off.
     
  4. Feb 5, 2016 #644 of 663
    KillerBeagle

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    I actually did that myself, with both TVs in the same room (since "many rooms" are not supported), and updated the ticket, but that's not supported either; their response: "The TiVo is only made to be connected to one TV at a time as we do not test the video output to multiple TV's so it may create issues. Again we will recommend disconnecting all other TV's and seeing if you still have the same issue with HDMI directly to one TV."

    I'll probably end up using the HDMI splitter trick, splitting 1 to 1, because I need two TVs in adjoining open rooms to be in sync on live TV. The Mini just doesn't seem to support that usage.

    Oh, and the output isn't disabled, it just slows the Tivo down to maybe 1/10 or less of its normal speed, to where it becomes unusable. Almost like it's being put in some processor power save mode.
     
  5. Feb 5, 2016 #645 of 663
    hytekjosh

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    Are others having this issue? I had no problem with tivo mini and both hdmi and composite being outputted (to tv and slingbox, respectively) simultaneously last I checked recently..
     
  6. Feb 5, 2016 #646 of 663
    JoeKustra

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    I have my composite always connected to a wireless headphone transmitter. Yellow connector just hangs. No problem. I guess that's a 2/3 test. :)
     
  7. Schmye Bubbula

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    Sorry, I didn't get a timely email notification and see the subsequent answers to my last post until now, and I came here to report that I just now experienced playback losing its place when exiting via the Live TV button.

    My sub-thread thus far:
    post #629
    post #630
    post #631
    post #637
    post #639

    mattack, as I listed in post #631, the ways I occasionally lose my place and the next play starts at the very beginning are after exiting playback with the Back, Left Arrow, and TiVo home buttons. I'm talking about when playing a previously fully-completed recording of a video chosen from My Shows. (Yes, I'm aware that when watching a live buffer, it won't remember its place when toggling another tuner unless you pause it first.)

    samccfl99, by "authoritatively known," I was just asking whether exiting playback occasionally losing its place occurs less with the Live TV button is a known bug with the TiVo powers-that-be, not questioning the wherewithal of the people here. My new data point is that I just now lost the resume point when exiting playback with the Live TV button. My problem never happened even once over ten years with my old Series 2.
     
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  8. wtherrin

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    Has anyone come up with a good fix for the problems on the Roamio boxes caused by the winter update yet?
     
  9. slowbiscuit

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    Playback has lost its place on a regular basis for years now (with a lot of different button presses). There's nothing new here, but it has gotten better for me.
     
  10. samccfl99

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    It used to always work. I think they have done something. I have seen this happen several times lately when I swear I got out using the Live button, and it was not near the end.

    Off topic, also when pausing in QuickMode and going into My Shows, etc, it is unpausing it. It did not do that when 20.5.6 first came to Roamio.
     
  11. mrizzo80

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    Anyone having audio/video sync issues? I've noticed in the last month or so that the audio and video seem to be slightly out of sync - I hear words before I see people's lips moving. I feel like I would have noticed this before. I'm running a Roamio thru a Denon 887 AVR. I turned on the Audio delay on the Denon (to 30ms), that seems to have helped.
     
  12. rocket777

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    One might think that this should be an easy bug to find. Either the code is really ratty and nobody has been able to fix it, or they simply don't think it is important.

    This problem occurs often for me as I switch between two sports shows on at the same time, watching each for about 1/2 hour just in case the announcer tries to spoil my other show with a "sports update". The problem is experienced here most often for me, as when I get near to live and then switch to the other show, it often loses its place.
     
  13. Schmye Bubbula

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    ^ rocket777, just to be completely clear, are you talking about two recordings in progress approaching live that you're switching between, or two tuner buffers you're switching between that lose their place (despite pausing before each switch)? It sounds like you mean the former, but we just need to be sure.
     
  14. samccfl99

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    BINGO, BOTH...It is Tivo, Inc, IS IT NOT?

    GET OUT WITH LIVE BUTTON ALWAYS WHEN WATCHING SOMETHING YOU ARE CURRENTLY RECORDING. I am sure he is recording both of those sports shows.

    Also, have many (or any) of you noticed that when you reboot, you lose the position of a recording in a Group Folder? All groups start at the top after a reboot, thereby losing your place. That never happens with Netflix. Actually before 20.4.6 (NOT 20.5.6), it used to lose it's position when moving from one group to another, but a miracle happened and I reported that and they did fix it, but then they decided to put the group position pointer in Cache. They specifically said they did that on purpose, and refuse to fix it. Gee, I wonder what people would say if they did that with the Resume Point on ALL recordings? Total Idiots.

    Still, I would not want an X1 from Comcast...Perish the thought!
     
  15. rocket777

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    Yes, I never watch from the live buffers, only from scheduled recordings. Say, 2 football games recording. I switch by hitting the tivo button and then go to the other recording in the shows and then try to resume watching that.

    Not always, but often when I've gotten close to live on one, when I come back to it, it no longer has the option to resume, only to play. The closer to live, the more often it happens.
     
  16. slowbiscuit

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    That is exactly how I used to see it all the time, but when I switched between NFL games last fall I rarely saw it so it did get better for me. Even when I let one game catch up to live before switching, which is the usual case where it loses track.
     
  17. wtherrin

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    Has anyone heard of ANY fix for the pixelation issues on the Roamio caused by the winter update?
     
  18. drew_ca

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    No communication at all. They just released a new software version and still no fix. I am stuck not having access to many channels. At least half of which I watched regularly. If I want to watch them, I have to watch the SD version. I used to really talk up TiVo but after this continuing issue, I am rethinking my AV setup.
     
  19. kucharsk

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    TiVO is located in the Bay Area, so actually quite a bit. :D
     
  20. KingsFan6

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    Just want to give an update on the washout issue that I reported about 3 months back after the update the 20.5.6. A few others on this forum reported the same issue. I'm happy to say that with 20.5.9, which I just received in the last day or two, the washout issue is now gone from my TV. I don't have to set side bars to black as a workaround anymore. Even if I set them to gray, then go to any program on On Demand, the picture comes in fine with no washout.

    Unfortunately, I still have the other issue I had. When I set the box to output native resolution, HD programs in OD are outputting at whatever the most recent HD resolution from a cable channel happens to be (instead of native).
     

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